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What does "unclipped price" mean ?
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i see a lot of "unclipped price" phrase in 2nd hand book descriptions on ebay & abebooks. what does it mean? |
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i see a lot of "unclipped price" phrase in 2nd hand book descriptions on ebay & abebooks. what does it mean? It means the price you pay if you haven't been circumcised. Personally I find this practice to be anti-Semitic! |
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Well, Actually I thought the reason for clipping a book's dustjacket was
when the book has not been selling and the book seller wants to send a part of the book back to the publisher to get some sort of percentage rebate.......the publisher gives a percentage rebate for the book not selling. And then the book seller still has the clipped book to sell at his discretion.. if he can. Maybe I'm wrong but that;'s what I always thought. Betty wrote in message oups.com... hi, i see a lot of "unclipped price" phrase in 2nd hand book descriptions on ebay & abebooks. what does it mean? |
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Betty Hall wrote:
Well, Actually I thought the reason for clipping a book's dustjacket was when the book has not been selling and the book seller wants to send a part of the book back to the publisher to get some sort of percentage rebate.......the publisher gives a percentage rebate for the book not selling. And then the book seller still has the clipped book to sell at his discretion.. if he can. Maybe I'm wrong but that;'s what I always thought. Betty wrote in message oups.com... hi, i see a lot of "unclipped price" phrase in 2nd hand book descriptions on ebay & abebooks. what does it mean? Perhaps, long ago...but I've never heard of it being done that way. When returning books to publishers for refunds you send the torn-off front cover in the case of paperbacks, and the entire book ( dust jacket included ) in the case of hardbacks. Price clipping is usually done for one of three reasons: (1) To hide the cost of a book when it is given as a gift ( probably the most common and innocuous reason ). (2) To hide the original price of a book when it is being resold as a rarity ( i.e. for a higher price than that at which it originally sold ). You will occasionally come across used paperbacks with the prices inked out...this is the collectible PB version of this phenomena. (3) To hide the dust cover's 'edition' origins...to make a book club dust jacket look like that found on a more desirable edition, or to make a later ( higher original priced ) dust jacket look like it belongs on an earlier ( lower original priced ), more desirable, edition. -- Swimming in the rivers of light. |
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Betty Hall wrote:
Well, Actually I thought the reason for clipping a book's dustjacket was when the book has not been selling and the book seller wants to send a part of the book back to the publisher to get some sort of percentage rebate.......the publisher gives a percentage rebate for the book not selling. And then the book seller still has the clipped book to sell at his discretion.. if he can. Maybe I'm wrong but that;'s what I always thought. Betty I don't believe so. I worked in a bookstore from 1975 to 1985 - publishers then certainly would not give credit for a clipping from a jacket, and I don't believe things have changed since then. Think of the possibilities for fraud. Mass market paperbacks, however, are a bit different; there the common practice was to return the entire front cover for credit. The remaining book could not be (legally) sold, it was supposed to be destroyed. |
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gmenchen wrote:
Betty Hall wrote: Well, Actually I thought the reason for clipping a book's dustjacket was when the book has not been selling and the book seller wants to send a part of the book back to the publisher to get some sort of percentage rebate.......the publisher gives a percentage rebate for the book not selling. And then the book seller still has the clipped book to sell at his discretion.. if he can. Maybe I'm wrong but that;'s what I always thought. Betty I don't believe so. I worked in a bookstore from 1975 to 1985 - publishers then certainly would not give credit for a clipping from a jacket, and I don't believe things have changed since then. Think of the possibilities for fraud. Mass market paperbacks, however, are a bit different; there the common practice was to return the entire front cover for credit. The remaining book could not be (legally) sold, it was supposed to be destroyed. Ms. Hall and gmenchen are referring to "stripping a book", which is much different from clipping a price. There was the perfectly ethical practice of clipping prices from new hardcovers whose suggested retail price had been increased by the publisher. Many coffeetable/art books would even be released, in the fall, say, with two prices printed on them. [Ex: $45.00 $50.00 after Dec. 31]. When I worked for a chain bookseller in the 70s and 80s, flitting about the store with a sheet of price changes sent from corporate, and a sharp pair of scissors, was a regular event. Nowadays I would suppose that doesn't happen as much, as the stock is likely to be returned quickly. It was infuriating to order a new hardcover from a wholesaler or publisher, get invoiced at that price, and when receiving the book find that you had been shipped stock with the old $22.50 price on the jacket. Now, this could mean that you had been sent a first that the warehouse didn't know it had, but if the buyer wasn't a collector, he was going to want the book at the lower price. So...snip! Then when your customer came in for the book, he sometimes was a collector, and was peeved that the receiver had clipped the price. You couldn't win! Of course, a used and rare dealer wouldn't care about the publisher's SRP, but trade stores would. One other thing about book club editions that I expect most everyone here knows: I've been told that the paper stock used in many of them was often inferior to that in the trade editions. A BCE printed on high-acid paper can sometimes be distinguished by yellowing and chipping that has not yet started to degrade the corresponding trade. The physical dimensions of the two types are also often different, which is not important in a reading copy, but can tip you off if someone is trying to sell brass at gold prices. Kevin |
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