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Scanned or composed album pages? Was: The RCSD Award
Because the inquiring minds want to know :-) , I have decided to verify the
whole thing on a real case. So I have scanned an existing album page, at 100 dpi (!), and I have then composed the same page from scratch. In the composed page I have used the same images as those displayed by the scanned one, by simply extracting them from it. Up to you to judge the results. The scanned page is at: http://www.values.ch/Temp/resolution1.htm and the composed one is at: http://www.values.ch/Temp/resolution.htm Victor Manta --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philatelic Webmasters Organization: http://pwmo.org Art on Stamps: http://values.ch Romania Shown by Its Stamps: http://marci-postale.com Communism on Stamps: http://www.values.ch/Communism/ Spanish Africa: http://www.values.ch/sna-site/ Remove "um" from the e-mail address to reply --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Victor Manta" wrote in message ... Tom, snip There are some technical problems with album pages that are scanned. The resolution of printers is much higher than that of computer screens. The properly scanned album pages will produce big scans (that have to be scrolled and scrolled, in both directions, and will also take more time to download) or they will be reduced to smaller pages, but with texts that cannot be anymore read on screens, because they will be too small, and also with smaller images. That's why, IMO: - it is easier to work directly on computers for things that will be finally displayed on computer screens (what you see is what others get too) - we won't have "real" album pages on our screens, but rather Web pages that approximate them, by displaying less information and by eventually making other compromises too. Actually, this could make the whole thing interesting and challenging Victor Manta |
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"Victor Manta" wrote in message ... Because the inquiring minds want to know :-) , I have decided to verify the whole thing on a real case. So I have scanned an existing album page, at 100 dpi (!), and I have then composed the same page from scratch. In the composed page I have used the same images as those displayed by the scanned one, by simply extracting them from it. Up to you to judge the results. I actually like the scanned one better - I am assuming you intend this for web display. Frank |
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The scanned page is easy to spot online - one single graphic v several. Also
the layout is different on my computer -- the scanned page is narrower. "Victor Manta" wrote in message ... Because the inquiring minds want to know :-) , I have decided to verify the whole thing on a real case. So I have scanned an existing album page, at 100 dpi (!), and I have then composed the same page from scratch. In the composed page I have used the same images as those displayed by the scanned one, by simply extracting them from it. Up to you to judge the results. The scanned page is at: http://www.values.ch/Temp/resolution1.htm and the composed one is at: http://www.values.ch/Temp/resolution.htm Victor Manta -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Philatelic Webmasters Organization: http://pwmo.org Art on Stamps: http://values.ch Romania Shown by Its Stamps: http://marci-postale.com Communism on Stamps: http://www.values.ch/Communism/ Spanish Africa: http://www.values.ch/sna-site/ Remove "um" from the e-mail address to reply -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - "Victor Manta" wrote in message ... Tom, snip There are some technical problems with album pages that are scanned. The resolution of printers is much higher than that of computer screens. The properly scanned album pages will produce big scans (that have to be scrolled and scrolled, in both directions, and will also take more time to download) or they will be reduced to smaller pages, but with texts that cannot be anymore read on screens, because they will be too small, and also with smaller images. That's why, IMO: - it is easier to work directly on computers for things that will be finally displayed on computer screens (what you see is what others get too) - we won't have "real" album pages on our screens, but rather Web pages that approximate them, by displaying less information and by eventually making other compromises too. Actually, this could make the whole thing interesting and challenging Victor Manta |
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"Victor Manta" wrote:
Because the inquiring minds want to know :-) , I have decided to verify the whole thing on a real case. So I have scanned an existing album page, at 100 dpi (!), and I have then composed the same page from scratch. In the composed page I have used the same images as those displayed by the scanned one, by simply extracting them from it. Up to you to judge the results. The scanned page is at: http://www.values.ch/Temp/resolution1.htm and the composed one is at: http://www.values.ch/Temp/resolution.htm Victor Manta Greetings Mr. Manta. .. For testing purposes only, I vote for the scanned page. .. Respectfully, Gordon Lee Great Fritain Royal Memorabilia & Resolution Re-solvement Emporium If I like it, it's pornography. But if Victor likes it, it is erotica. |
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I like the scanned page better in this case because it looks like a
page, taller than it is wide. The other is more of a square than a rectangular page so it looks somewhat cluttered, stuff is too close together. It also has an advertizement at the bottom which detracts from the page. FWIW, my settings are 1024x768. Victor Manta wrote: Because the inquiring minds want to know :-) , I have decided to verify the whole thing on a real case. So I have scanned an existing album page, at 100 dpi (!), and I have then composed the same page from scratch. In the composed page I have used the same images as those displayed by the scanned one, by simply extracting them from it. Up to you to judge the results. The scanned page is at: http://www.values.ch/Temp/resolution1.htm and the composed one is at: http://www.values.ch/Temp/resolution.htm Victor Manta --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philatelic Webmasters Organization: http://pwmo.org Art on Stamps: http://values.ch Romania Shown by Its Stamps: http://marci-postale.com Communism on Stamps: http://www.values.ch/Communism/ Spanish Africa: http://www.values.ch/sna-site/ Remove "um" from the e-mail address to reply --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Victor Manta" wrote in message ... Tom, snip There are some technical problems with album pages that are scanned. The resolution of printers is much higher than that of computer screens. The properly scanned album pages will produce big scans (that have to be scrolled and scrolled, in both directions, and will also take more time to download) or they will be reduced to smaller pages, but with texts that cannot be anymore read on screens, because they will be too small, and also with smaller images. That's why, IMO: - it is easier to work directly on computers for things that will be finally displayed on computer screens (what you see is what others get too) - we won't have "real" album pages on our screens, but rather Web pages that approximate them, by displaying less information and by eventually making other compromises too. Actually, this could make the whole thing interesting and challenging Victor Manta |
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Victor et al,
Thanks Victor for your comparison. I like, as do others, the scanned page. It has the "work of art" feeling that I was yacking about. The composed page loaded in a few seconds and the scanned took over 10 seconds. So, in a precious post I have proposed that there are no rules and entrants can go either way. This leaves it up to the designer. You will note that many people will see something different with the composed page, a real shocker when I first saw my website on a pc. Tom Victor Manta wrote: Because the inquiring minds want to know :-) , I have decided to verify the whole thing on a real case. So I have scanned an existing album page, at 100 dpi (!), and I have then composed the same page from scratch. In the composed page I have used the same images as those displayed by the scanned one, by simply extracting them from it. Up to you to judge the results. The scanned page is at: http://www.values.ch/Temp/resolution1.htm and the composed one is at: http://www.values.ch/Temp/resolution.htm Victor Manta --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philatelic Webmasters Organization: http://pwmo.org Art on Stamps: http://values.ch Romania Shown by Its Stamps: http://marci-postale.com Communism on Stamps: http://www.values.ch/Communism/ Spanish Africa: http://www.values.ch/sna-site/ Remove "um" from the e-mail address to reply --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Victor Manta" wrote in message ... Tom, snip There are some technical problems with album pages that are scanned. The resolution of printers is much higher than that of computer screens. The properly scanned album pages will produce big scans (that have to be scrolled and scrolled, in both directions, and will also take more time to download) or they will be reduced to smaller pages, but with texts that cannot be anymore read on screens, because they will be too small, and also with smaller images. That's why, IMO: - it is easier to work directly on computers for things that will be finally displayed on computer screens (what you see is what others get too) - we won't have "real" album pages on our screens, but rather Web pages that approximate them, by displaying less information and by eventually making other compromises too. Actually, this could make the whole thing interesting and challenging Victor Manta -- Thomas Loepp Email: Website: http://loepp.home.mindspring.com/tom/ |
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OOPS, now I sound like Golum. One of my rules of art is "nothing is precious",
certainly not my "previous" post. toma spellcheck Tom Loepp wrote: Victor et al, Thanks Victor for your comparison. I like, as do others, the scanned page. It has the "work of art" feeling that I was yacking about. The composed page loaded in a few seconds and the scanned took over 10 seconds. So, in a precious post I have proposed that there are no rules and entrants can go either way. This leaves it up to the designer. You will note that many people will see something different with the composed page, a real shocker when I first saw my website on a pc. Tom Victor Manta wrote: Because the inquiring minds want to know :-) , I have decided to verify the whole thing on a real case. So I have scanned an existing album page, at 100 dpi (!), and I have then composed the same page from scratch. In the composed page I have used the same images as those displayed by the scanned one, by simply extracting them from it. Up to you to judge the results. The scanned page is at: http://www.values.ch/Temp/resolution1.htm and the composed one is at: http://www.values.ch/Temp/resolution.htm Victor Manta -- Thomas Loepp Email: Website: http://loepp.home.mindspring.com/tom/ |
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12/6/2003 10:32 AM
Victor et al, Thanks Victor for your comparison. I like, as do others, the scanned page. It has the "work of art" feeling that I was yacking about. The composed page loaded in a few seconds and the scanned took over 10 seconds. So, in a precious post I have proposed that there are no rules and entrants can go either way. This leaves it up to the designer. You will note that many people will see something different with the composed page, a real shocker when I first saw my website on a pc. Tom I like the look of the scanned page better, but only because the text is easier to read. A somewhat larger font, in black, on the html version would improve it on my monitor. The most important lesson a web page designer is to look at his/her creations on with different computer / browser combinations. I was firmly married to color backgrounds, and I especially liked a light tan which seemed to bespeak antique documents. Then I happened to take my elderly mother to the public library in her town to show her my web site, and the background looked like...spoilt mustard, like...no...I can't write that in the newsgroup! It was truly awful. I went home and changed the background of every page to pure white, much to my son's delight; he had told me to do that in the first place, but what do kids know? Bob |
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Victor Manta wrote:
Because the inquiring minds want to know :-) , I have decided to verify the whole thing on a real case. So I have scanned an existing album page, at 100 dpi (!), and I have then composed the same page from scratch. In the composed page I have used the same images as those displayed by the scanned one, by simply extracting them from it. Up to you to judge the results. The scanned page is at: http://www.values.ch/Temp/resolution1.htm and the composed one is at: http://www.values.ch/Temp/resolution.htm Victor Manta --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philatelic Webmasters Organization: http://pwmo.org Art on Stamps: http://values.ch Romania Shown by Its Stamps: http://marci-postale.com Communism on Stamps: http://www.values.ch/Communism/ Spanish Africa: http://www.values.ch/sna-site/ Remove "um" from the e-mail address to reply --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Victor Manta" wrote in message ... Tom, snip There are some technical problems with album pages that are scanned. The resolution of printers is much higher than that of computer screens. The properly scanned album pages will produce big scans (that have to be scrolled and scrolled, in both directions, and will also take more time to download) or they will be reduced to smaller pages, but with texts that cannot be anymore read on screens, because they will be too small, and also with smaller images. That's why, IMO: - it is easier to work directly on computers for things that will be finally displayed on computer screens (what you see is what others get too) - we won't have "real" album pages on our screens, but rather Web pages that approximate them, by displaying less information and by eventually making other compromises too. Actually, this could make the whole thing interesting and challenging Victor Manta I see two advantages to the composed page: 1) is it somewhat smaller (63798 total bytes vs. 108101 bytes for the scanned page) and 2) having the text in the HTML rather than part of the scanned image allows a viewer to adjust the text size to make it easier to read independently from the images. (Both can be adjusted by changing the screen resolution.) It also makes the text easier to copy, which may or may not be an advantage. = Eric |
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Delurking only long enough to say that I actually agree with the majority -
I prefer the scanned page even though it is larger than the composed page. It just has a "finished" look to it that the composed page lacks. Ame |
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