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On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:00:42 -0600, "A.E. Gelat"
wrote: Blair, from your list, it appears that Baile means spa in Romania, but what does Baile mean in Gaelic? Is it the same word, or just a coincidence? Tony In gaelic I believe it means 'village' or maybe 'community'. Maybe Victor can advise on the Romanian meaning. However, the term could also have an ancient context of 'village' in Romanian (IMHO). The ancients, including the Romans, were always keen to establish settlements on the sites of hot springs or mineral springs. (refer to Bath in England). I await thw wise words of Mr Manta, in this regard. Blair -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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TC wrote in message
... On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:00:42 -0600, "A.E. Gelat" wrote: Blair, from your list, it appears that Baile means spa in Romania, but what does Baile mean in Gaelic? Is it the same word, or just a coincidence? Tony In gaelic I believe it means 'village' or maybe 'community'. Maybe Victor can advise on the Romanian meaning. However, the term could also have an ancient context of 'village' in Romanian (IMHO). The ancients, including the Romans, were always keen to establish settlements on the sites of hot springs or mineral springs. (refer to Bath in England). I await thw wise words of Mr Manta, in this regard. Blair and Tony, I have enquired around to find out more, and here are extracts of 2 emails I have received over the last couple of days from a GB-friend with connections to Ireland: 1) my Irish friend tells me Baile is the Irish for Town - Gaelic is not a language he informs me. He's not sure of the literal translation of Atha Cliath, but the three words together do mean The City of Dublin. 2) more information - the Atha is crossing and the Cliath is river - so its Town at the ford on the river - this name appeared in the middle ages. Dubhlinn - is a literal black pool - the deep water that allowed the Vikings to bring their ships in from the coast - you Danes got everywhere luckily. My comment: If 'baile' is Irish for town, then the Romanian Baile Herculanum could be "Town of Herculanum". This makes sense. The fact that the Romanian 'baile' seems to refer to spa's may simply refer to that a settlement (baile) was established on the sites of hot springs or mineral springs, as mentioned by Blair. In this context both Bath and Blackpool come to mind, see above. I don't think we can get any further into this now, but I will try pursuing the matter. Thanks for your contributions :-) Mette |
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Thanks, Mette
Tony "Mette" wrote in message ... TC wrote in message ... On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:00:42 -0600, "A.E. Gelat" wrote: Blair, from your list, it appears that Baile means spa in Romania, but what does Baile mean in Gaelic? Is it the same word, or just a coincidence? Tony In gaelic I believe it means 'village' or maybe 'community'. Maybe Victor can advise on the Romanian meaning. However, the term could also have an ancient context of 'village' in Romanian (IMHO). The ancients, including the Romans, were always keen to establish settlements on the sites of hot springs or mineral springs. (refer to Bath in England). I await thw wise words of Mr Manta, in this regard. Blair and Tony, I have enquired around to find out more, and here are extracts of 2 emails I have received over the last couple of days from a GB-friend with connections to Ireland: 1) my Irish friend tells me Baile is the Irish for Town - Gaelic is not a language he informs me. He's not sure of the literal translation of Atha Cliath, but the three words together do mean The City of Dublin. 2) more information - the Atha is crossing and the Cliath is river - so its Town at the ford on the river - this name appeared in the middle ages. Dubhlinn - is a literal black pool - the deep water that allowed the Vikings to bring their ships in from the coast - you Danes got everywhere luckily. My comment: If 'baile' is Irish for town, then the Romanian Baile Herculanum could be "Town of Herculanum". This makes sense. The fact that the Romanian 'baile' seems to refer to spa's may simply refer to that a settlement (baile) was established on the sites of hot springs or mineral springs, as mentioned by Blair. In this context both Bath and Blackpool come to mind, see above. I don't think we can get any further into this now, but I will try pursuing the matter. Thanks for your contributions :-) Mette |
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