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Detective Book Club oddity
John R. Yamamoto-Wilson wrote:
Jim wrote: Well, checking these titles on bookfinder, I come up with an ordinary Detective Book Club edition as well, which leads me to assume that 1969 (or 1970) *is* the date of publication. I'm not sure why you think that. If a book carries a copyright but no publication date then, unless there is other evidence to pin down the date of publication, all one can assume is that it was published on or after the copyright date. my impression was that the titles were always contemporary mysteries, and I'm wondering why, after 28--or even 35--years, they should do this volume. That Zane Grey website has a lot of info on Walter Black. Apparently they did a lot of reprints of Zane Grey material during the 1960s: The Walter J. Black Editions were reprints of seventy-three of Zane Grey's titles with one additional title appearing as a First Edition. The series also included a biography of Zane Grey. Produced in the 1960's, they were bound in red and tan cloth and originally came in a rice paper cover. (http://www.zgws.org/black.html) It goes on to discuss the value of these editions (most of them are of little value, but there are one or two exceptions). So Walter Black were reprinting Zane Grey stuff in the 1960s and several of these reprints (according to http://www.zgws.org/zgfechrono.html) were limited "leatherette" editions. It's not unreasonable to suppose that they were reprinting other material from decades earlier and that some of that, too, came out in limited editions with a leather binding. John Today I came across a learthette bound book from Walter Black. This was the "Works of Tolstoi" bearing a copyright of 1928 (presumably for the translation). But the condition of the book looked much more recent than 1928. Francis A. Miniter |
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Detective Book Club oddity
Francis A. Miniter wrote:
Today I came across a learthette bound book from Walter Black. This was the "Works of Tolstoi" bearing a copyright of 1928 (presumably for the translation). But the condition of the book looked much more recent than 1928. Interesting. I notice the copyright date they used on their Maigret titles was the date of the original, rather than the date of the translation. Anyway, the thing about reprint companies like this is that, since they generally don't give a printing date and only use a copyright date, it's well-nigh impossible to pin down the exact date of publication. How do/did Walter Black distribute? This series is a "book club", so I'm guessing it would be a subscription thing, right? If so, then these leatherette and/or limited editions might have been special offers to members, or inducements to become a member. They might have chosen their most popular title(s) for this treatment, hence the OP's "vintage" volume in a series of "current" mystery stories. John |
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Detective Book Club oddity
John R. Yamamoto-Wilson wrote:
Francis A. Miniter wrote: Today I came across a learthette bound book from Walter Black. This was the "Works of Tolstoi" bearing a copyright of 1928 (presumably for the translation). But the condition of the book looked much more recent than 1928. Interesting. I notice the copyright date they used on their Maigret titles was the date of the original, rather than the date of the translation. Anyway, the thing about reprint companies like this is that, since they generally don't give a printing date and only use a copyright date, it's well-nigh impossible to pin down the exact date of publication. How do/did Walter Black distribute? This series is a "book club", so I'm guessing it would be a subscription thing, right? If so, then these leatherette and/or limited editions might have been special offers to members, or inducements to become a member. They might have chosen their most popular title(s) for this treatment, hence the OP's "vintage" volume in a series of "current" mystery stories. John That makes sense. I mentioned Walter Black a couple of months ago with respect to an Erle Stanley Gardner work, "The Case of the Singing Skirt". There is a dust jacket from Morrow (Gardner's usual publisher) on it, but the book says Walter Black. The copyright page says "published by special arrangement with William Morrow & Co." But when I to an AddALL search for the book, I only get one Walter Black copy, no Morrow copies. Strange. The Morrow dust jacket contains a $2.95 price, by the way. Francis A. Miniter |
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Detective Book Club oddity
On May 30, 8:28 pm, "Francis A. Miniter"
wrote: Today I came across a learthette bound book from Walter Black. This was the "Works of Tolstoi" bearing a copyright of 1928 (presumably for the translation). But the condition of the book looked much more recent than 1928. That would be a "Reader's Service" volume, I bet. The ordinary ones were red, and the fancy ones (which you saw) a cream-colored binding, if I recall. You didn't happen to notice anything indicating it was "limited" in any way, did you? |
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Detective Book Club oddity
Jim wrote:
On May 30, 8:28 pm, "Francis A. Miniter" wrote: Today I came across a learthette bound book from Walter Black. This was the "Works of Tolstoi" bearing a copyright of 1928 (presumably for the translation). But the condition of the book looked much more recent than 1928. That would be a "Reader's Service" volume, I bet. The ordinary ones were red, and the fancy ones (which you saw) a cream-colored binding, if I recall. You didn't happen to notice anything indicating it was "limited" in any way, did you? No, but I may be able to get back and double check. Certainly there was nothing on the copyright page. That I am sure of. Francis A. Miniter |
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Detective Book Club oddity
Jim wrote:
You didn't happen to notice anything indicating it was "limited" in any way, did you? Francis wrote: No, but I may be able to get back and double check. Certainly there was nothing on the copyright page. That I am sure of. What I'm thinking is that these were not "limited" in the proper sense, but "deluxe." (I grant that they were limited in the sense that they were published in smaller numbers than the regular edition...) I suspect that's also the case with the Zane Grey titles John cites above. |
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Detective Book Club oddity
On May 30, 9:26 pm, "Francis A. Miniter"
wrote: I mentioned Walter Black a couple of months ago with respect to an Erle Stanley Gardner work, "The Case of the Singing Skirt". There is a dust jacket from Morrow (Gardner's usual publisher) on it, but the book says Walter Black. The copyright page says "published by special arrangement with William Morrow & Co." But when I to an AddALL search for the book, I only get one Walter Black copy, no Morrow copies. Strange. The Morrow dust jacket contains a $2.95 price, by the way. Almost all the Gardner titles went right into a Detective Book Club volume (according to the Dorothy Hughes bio), and were reprinted by Black later in various forms, eventually becoming the uniform edition known as the Gardner Mystery Library. |
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Detective Book Club oddity
On May 30, 9:11 pm, "John R. Yamamoto-Wilson"
wrote: How do/did Walter Black distribute? This series is a "book club", so I'm guessing it would be a subscription thing, right? If so, then these leatherette and/or limited editions might have been special offers to members, or inducements to become a member. They might have chosen their most popular title(s) for this treatment, hence the OP's "vintage" volume in a series of "current" mystery stories. I've seen the leatherettes of various titles around, but never a *numbered* limited edition... |
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