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On 27 Apr 2005 16:38:24 -0700, "trippingtoo8track"
wrote: I may be interested in your JVC deck if you want to get rid of it.snip Don't fall for this one! He'll try to get that thing for nothing, and then spam it all over Usenet at a fat profit! Fix it and keep it. dB |
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ps- just email any time if you want to sell the JVC
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Speaking of playerly troubles, what are the odds that a General
Electric quad player/receiver (with stereo AND four-channel aux inputs, even) I see in a thrift store will be worth $40? Besides the fact that thrift stores aren't always the best place for a find (though my $3.98 Lloyd's receiver is worth more than its weight on gold), how durable were the GEs? |
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Jonny the 8-Tracker! wrote: Speaking of playerly troubles, what are the odds that a General Electric quad player/receiver (with stereo AND four-channel aux inputs, even) I see in a thrift store will be worth $40? Besides the fact that thrift stores aren't always the best place for a find (though my $3.98 Lloyd's receiver is worth more than its weight on gold), how durable were the GEs? The older GE's are great players- I had a few of them, they look really neat and played well too. They have an angled face on the ones I had. One of them was a quad, the other stereo. They both brought over $100 on ebay- one I believe fetched $150 or more. Recently prices have come down though. It's hard to get a player price over $100 anymore due to flooding of the player market on ebay, and tons of competition from wanna-bee sellers who aren't even into 8-tracks. It's becoming a diminishing market over time. Prices are about 1/2 or less than what they were at the peak of the "rebirth" of 8-tracks and ebay. Realize any of these players you get, have to be completely serviced to be worth anything. The worst thing you can do is auction it "as is", in that case unless a really rare model, it's worth less than $50 on ebay. $40 for that deck is as high as I'd go at a thrift store. Actually I'd try to get it cheaper, and may pass on it for that price. Often I would go in and fill an entire shopping cart with decks and all-in-ones for $5 per unit. It's just like the stock market, you want to buy low and sell high. |
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From a trusted tech:
I've never heard of a run capacitor in an 8-Track. 8-Track players use DC motors with permanent magnets, and "run" capacitors are normally used on an AC synchronous motor. It's more likely that the motor's bearing is shot, which would cause that same symptom. Other causes are also possible. "DeserTBoB" wrote in message ... On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:01:06 GMT, "ommadawn" wrote: Yes, I tried it again today, and it works fine for the first minute, then slips into 'underwater mode'... snip Replace the motor run capacitor...done. dB |
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this information is wrong- many 8-track decks use AC MOTORS- such as
Akai 80-81-82, Wollensack 8050, some Sony TC-228, most Zenith, all JVC I've seen, and many more. read the archives on AC motors, the AC motor decks are the best. to get an ac motor to turn in the proper direction, and regulate the speed to 3.75 IPS, they use a capacitor in series with the motor. your trusted tech is mistaken |
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here's one more
Lines: 22 X-Admin: From: (Danspeakin) Newsgroups: alt.collecting.8-track-tapes Date: 07 Sep 2002 01:53:37 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: When did cassettes take over from eight-tracks? Message-ID: You have to do a lot of fast forwarding using auto stop to index 8-tracks to the beginning of a channel for recording, but it goes along pretty fast. That's if your decks don't start burning up left and right, then you gotta see "the man", Dan2...lol... This brings up an issue that I have been meaning to tell you folks. Over the years it has become standard operating procedure to replace all the electrolytic capacitors in tube type equipment. The capacitors dry up inside and become ticking time bombs, going POW at inoportune moments. I hadn't hought about what the life span was on these capacitors until recently when I got an Akai in for "motor" problems. The Akai has one of the best AC motors in the business and AC motors use big high voltage capacitors to make them start up from a dead stop. This Akai had a capacitor exploded all over inside it with goo coating all associated components. I guess the message here is that these things are getting old enough to need preventative maintenance just like the tube equipment has for many years now. Dan2 http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...e=source&hl=en |
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:12:39 GMT, "ommadawn"
wrote: From a trusted tech: I've never heard of a run capacitor in an 8-Track. 8-Track players use DC motors with permanent magnets, and "run" capacitors are normally used on an AC synchronous motor. snip I hate to tell you this, and I **truly** hate to back up Noodles, but he's right. Your tech knows nada about early 8 tracks and cassette machines for home. Most of the earlier models did indeed use synchronous AC motors, and they all use a run capacitor. Tell your tech that a pro says he needs to go back to school. An example: The Wollensak 8050 had an AC synchronous motor; the next model, the 8055, had a tachyservo controlled DC PM motor. Again, I hate to back up Noodles, but in this case, he's right. dB |
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I think I'll do some talk scorning the abilities of "thriftie" 8-track
decks, make it sound like I'm only somewhat interested, and try to get the price down to $30 on that quad if it checks out when I plug in some speakers in the back. That and, as Trip suggested a little while ago, to ask them if they'll hold any 8-tracks they want to "dispose of" until I can check 'em out, knowing a bit more than coffee stains! I'll be on my way down to the store tomorrow...wish me luck! |
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