why a wide cut foam pad is better

this is a few pics of the earlier Alice Cooper Killer tape from the
recent college dorm lot of tapes- this one broke at the splice- and
gave a good opportunity to see the improved spring type pads that fill
the entire void in the cart from top to bottom- notice how the pads
extend beyond where the tape rides, on top and bottom

this is why a hand cut square foam pad is superior to the thinner
earlier pads- if/when the tape moves around as the tape head moves to
switch tracks, the tape can't move off the pad. Most tapes getting
"eaten" can be traced back to the tape tangling around the capstan at
channel switch. It's also another reason why tapes "turn over" and
start winding on the reel, with the graphite side out.

The tape makers knew about this in the 1970's, and improved their
spring pads to make them wider. Early RCA carts also have wide spring
pads.

see pics below

http://i7.tinypic.com/24enl8o.jpg

http://i8.tinypic.com/24enntg.jpg

wide cut pads- the only way to fly- for discriminating trackers who
know better !

On 12 Aug 2006 06:59:22 -0700, "DeserTBob=pig one"
wrote:

this is a few pics of the earlier Alice Cooper Killer tape from the
recent college dorm lot of tapes- this one broke at the splice- and
gave a good opportunity to see the improved spring type pads that fill
the entire void in the cart from top to bottom- notice how the pads
extend beyond where the tape rides, on top and bottom

this is why a hand cut square foam pad is superior to the thinner
earlier pads- if/when the tape moves around as the tape head moves to
switch tracks, the tape can't move off the pad. Most tapes getting
"eaten" can be traced back to the tape tangling around the capstan at
channel switch. It's also another reason why tapes "turn over" and
start winding on the reel, with the graphite side out. snip

Noodles' "aquarium filter foam" pads are a scam, and he even admitted
as much in this forum. They scrape the graphite back coating off your
tape and foul up the tape's tracking ability, as the overly wide piece
of hard foam will not fit properly into the leading tape guide.

Charlie Nudo...a scam a day the Noodles way!

The tape makers knew about this in the 1970's, and improved their
spring pads to make them wider. Early RCA carts also have wide spring
pads. snip

Hey dildobrain....the "wider" part IS ON THE HEAD....NOT IN THE DAMNED
LEADING TAPE GUIDE!

Your pads are a fraud...along with almost everything else you do or
have.

DeserTBoB wrote:
On 12 Aug 2006 06:59:22 -0700, "DeserTBob=pig one"
wrote:


this is a few pics of the earlier Alice Cooper Killer tape from the
recent college dorm lot of tapes- this one broke at the splice- and
gave a good opportunity to see the improved spring type pads that fill
the entire void in the cart from top to bottom- notice how the pads
extend beyond where the tape rides, on top and bottom

this is why a hand cut square foam pad is superior to the thinner
earlier pads- if/when the tape moves around as the tape head moves to
switch tracks, the tape can't move off the pad. Most tapes getting
"eaten" can be traced back to the tape tangling around the capstan at
channel switch. It's also another reason why tapes "turn over" and
start winding on the reel, with the graphite side out. snip


Noodles' "aquarium filter foam" pads are a scam, and he even admitted
as much in this forum. They scrape the graphite back coating off your
tape and foul up the tape's tracking ability, as the overly wide piece
of hard foam will not fit properly into the leading tape guide.

Charlie Nudo...a scam a day the Noodles way!

The tape makers knew about this in the 1970's, and improved their
spring pads to make them wider. Early RCA carts also have wide spring
pads. snip


Hey dildobrain....the "wider" part IS ON THE HEAD....NOT IN THE DAMNED
LEADING TAPE GUIDE!

Your pads are a fraud...along with almost everything else you do or
have.
If anything the tape needs a smooth surface to ride on at least like
Scotch tape on top of the foam.

Scott Irvine wrote:
DeserTBoB wrote:
On 12 Aug 2006 06:59:22 -0700, "DeserTBob=pig one"
wrote:


this is a few pics of the earlier Alice Cooper Killer tape from the
recent college dorm lot of tapes- this one broke at the splice- and
gave a good opportunity to see the improved spring type pads that fill
the entire void in the cart from top to bottom- notice how the pads
extend beyond where the tape rides, on top and bottom

this is why a hand cut square foam pad is superior to the thinner
earlier pads- if/when the tape moves around as the tape head moves to
switch tracks, the tape can't move off the pad. Most tapes getting
"eaten" can be traced back to the tape tangling around the capstan at
channel switch. It's also another reason why tapes "turn over" and
start winding on the reel, with the graphite side out. snip


Noodles' "aquarium filter foam" pads are a scam, and he even admitted
as much in this forum. They scrape the graphite back coating off your
tape and foul up the tape's tracking ability, as the overly wide piece
of hard foam will not fit properly into the leading tape guide.

Charlie Nudo...a scam a day the Noodles way!

The tape makers knew about this in the 1970's, and improved their
spring pads to make them wider. Early RCA carts also have wide spring
pads. snip


Hey dildobrain....the "wider" part IS ON THE HEAD....NOT IN THE DAMNED
LEADING TAPE GUIDE!

Your pads are a fraud...along with almost everything else you do or
have.
If anything the tape needs a smooth surface to ride on at least like
Scotch tape on top of the foam.


WRONG- look at the pictures- that is not a smooth surface on the
factory original wide spring pads. If there is loose graphite
particles on the back of the tape, you want to WIPE THEM OFF.
Otherwise, they attach themselves to the FRONT of the tape that plays-
and that is what causes the crackling sound and channels not switching
on some 8-track machines. The graphite is slightly conductive- and will
"trick" the channel switch sensor on the Akai and Pioneer machines. It
will cause the Akai to not switch tracks, and it will cause the Pioneer
to go on stop when in "auto stop" mode- when it's not at the end of the
channel switch yet.

Read the archives- loose graphite is a major problem. Radio Shack
actually made a machine that cleaned it off, that you played the tapes
in to clean them.

On 13 Aug 2006 04:55:21 -0700, "Paris Gun" wrote:

WRONG- look at the pictures- that is not a smooth surface on the
factory original wide spring pads. If there is loose graphite
particles on the back of the tape, you want to WIPE THEM OFF.
Otherwise, they attach themselves to the FRONT of the tape that plays- snip

The felt on "spring pads" wasn't very abrasive at all. Your scam pads
are like ScotchBrite.

Another Charlie Nudo delusion/scam.

DeserTBoB wrote:
On 13 Aug 2006 04:55:21 -0700, "Paris Gun" wrote:

WRONG- look at the pictures- that is not a smooth surface on the
factory original wide spring pads. If there is loose graphite
particles on the back of the tape, you want to WIPE THEM OFF.
Otherwise, they attach themselves to the FRONT of the tape that plays- snip

The felt on "spring pads" wasn't very abrasive at all. Your scam pads
are like ScotchBrite.

Another Charlie Nudo delusion/scam.

face it- they used wide pads from the factory, with no coating

you're wrong, again- you can't even spell correctly

ta-ta

On 13 Aug 2006 13:47:59 -0700, "455 Pontiac on premium Sunoco-chariot
of the gods" wrote:

face it- they used wide pads from the factory, with no coating snip

....ON THE HEAD SURFACE ONLY...IDIOT!

you're wrong, again- you can't even spell correctly snip

Oh, I guess not..."Mr. Dildow"..."Mr. Heresay."

Paris Gun wrote:
WRONG- look at the pictures- that is not a smooth surface on the
factory original wide spring pads. If there is loose graphite
particles on the back of the tape, you want to WIPE THEM OFF.
Otherwise, they attach themselves to the FRONT of the tape that plays-
and that is what causes the crackling sound and channels not switching
on some 8-track machines. The graphite is slightly conductive- and will
"trick" the channel switch sensor on the Akai and Pioneer machines. It
will cause the Akai to not switch tracks, and it will cause the Pioneer
to go on stop when in "auto stop" mode- when it's not at the end of the
channel switch yet.

Sooo... tell me how cleaning the graphite off the back of the tape will
somehow miraculously clean the front of the tape. It can't- there's
nothing to physically clean the front of the tape- just the back of it.
That's like saying if you clean the bottom of the plate, it's rubbing
against other clean plate undersides will clean the top of the plate
too.

Read the archives- loose graphite is a major problem. Radio Shack
actually made a machine that cleaned it off, that you played the tapes
in to clean them.

And it also cleanly removes all frequencies over 12khz. This has been
documented in the "Plasticville Reports" on 8trackheaven.com.

wrote:
Paris Gun wrote:
WRONG- look at the pictures- that is not a smooth surface on the
factory original wide spring pads. If there is loose graphite
particles on the back of the tape, you want to WIPE THEM OFF.
Otherwise, they attach themselves to the FRONT of the tape that plays-
and that is what causes the crackling sound and channels not switching
on some 8-track machines. The graphite is slightly conductive- and will
"trick" the channel switch sensor on the Akai and Pioneer machines. It
will cause the Akai to not switch tracks, and it will cause the Pioneer
to go on stop when in "auto stop" mode- when it's not at the end of the
channel switch yet.

Sooo... tell me how cleaning the graphite off the back of the tape will
somehow miraculously clean the front of the tape. It can't- there's
nothing to physically clean the front of the tape- just the back of it.
That's like saying if you clean the bottom of the plate, it's rubbing
against other clean plate undersides will clean the top of the plate
too.

Read the archives- loose graphite is a major problem. Radio Shack
actually made a machine that cleaned it off, that you played the tapes
in to clean them.

And it also cleanly removes all frequencies over 12khz. This has been
documented in the "Plasticville Reports" on 8trackheaven.com.

I can't find anything about the plasticville reports. Is this something
that doesn't exist anymore? Just thought it might be something I would
like to check out. Thanks!

On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 01:49:44 -0400, Scott Irvine
wrote:

I can't find anything about the plasticville reports. Is this something
that doesn't exist anymore? Just thought it might be something I would
like to check out. Thanks! snip

You have to hunt around a bit, but last time I looked, that "review"
was in there, along with some of mine.