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nsm Prestige es160 carriage
I recently bought a Prestige ES160, the manual I have unfortunately is
for an es II 160. They seem to be almost identical, but I'm not sure. The question I have is, in the manual it shows a switch to indicate when the carriage has reached the far left and right position, this switch I guess switches the carriage from playing a sides to b sides at the end of it's travel. My carriage does not have anything that looks like what is picured in the manual. The manual says that the switch will reverse the motor to move back to the right. If there is a missing switch, I don't see anyplace where a switch would be wired to. Does anyone have this same box that could take some pictured of their carriage and send to me? I would really appreciate it. Thanks, mark |
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The ES160 mech works on AC voltage and the ESII works on DC voltage. The
scan switch didn't use optics until the ESIII system came out. I don't have a mech laying around right now, but if I find one, I'll snap a pic. The switch you are looking for is similar on both models. Mike "Mark" wrote in message om... I recently bought a Prestige ES160, the manual I have unfortunately is for an es II 160. They seem to be almost identical, but I'm not sure. The question I have is, in the manual it shows a switch to indicate when the carriage has reached the far left and right position, this switch I guess switches the carriage from playing a sides to b sides at the end of it's travel. My carriage does not have anything that looks like what is picured in the manual. The manual says that the switch will reverse the motor to move back to the right. If there is a missing switch, I don't see anyplace where a switch would be wired to. Does anyone have this same box that could take some pictured of their carriage and send to me? I would really appreciate it. Thanks, mark |
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a missing switch, I don't see anyplace where a switch would be wired
to. Does anyone have this same box that could take some pictured of their carriage and send to me? I would really appreciate it. Some NSM carriages use a microswitch, as described in your manual. Some use an optical switch instead, which is probably the case with yours. The optical switch is mounted to the carriage PCB and points straight back towards a metal strip under the record rack. Part of the strip is black, and part is not. When the carriage passes the point where the strip changes, it knows that is the home position, and it figures out the record positions and the ends of the rack from there. Good luck troubleshooting it! Those can be really annoying to get going, in my experience. I do see the optical switch mounted on the pcb, but I don't recall seeing the metal strip that is part black. I will have to look closer when I get home. If I hit the scan switch, it moves all the way to the left. Hitting the switch again, bumps the carriage right, then back to left. It seems to know that it has hit the far left. I am wondering if this is even the carriage that is supposed to be in this machine, since it also has the "ortofon" needles which I thought were on the later models. I think I finally have the power supply troubles fixed and the computer comes up, so I think it is time to put it all back together and see what happens. Those damn 20+ year old electrolytics will get you everytime. It does seem to be quite a pain from what I have read. The price was right though, $20 after raiding the quarters from the coin box. And my wife really likes it, so I guess I will have to keep fighting with it. Thanks, Mark |
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That confuses me even more. The sticker on the mech in the machine
says it is for the ES III/ ES IV. The scan switch does make the carriage move though, which I wouldn't think it would do if it was using AC instead of DC. There are two mech's on ebay that I have been staring at the pictures of, but they don't mention what machine they came out of. Thanks, Mark "Merlin Amusements" wrote in message . com... The ES160 mech works on AC voltage and the ESII works on DC voltage. The scan switch didn't use optics until the ESIII system came out. I don't have a mech laying around right now, but if I find one, I'll snap a pic. The switch you are looking for is similar on both models. Mike "Mark" wrote in message om... I recently bought a Prestige ES160, the manual I have unfortunately is for an es II 160. They seem to be almost identical, but I'm not sure. |
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Sounds to me like you have the wrong mech. Is this a prestige with the
chrome frame, or with the light organ around the front glass? The one with the chrome had the AC mech and the one with the lights had a DC mech. Both used the ESII system. If it is a Prestige, I don't think NSM ever made one for the ES3 or ES4 system. Which prestige do you have? Mike "Mark" wrote in message om... That confuses me even more. The sticker on the mech in the machine says it is for the ES III/ ES IV. The scan switch does make the carriage move though, which I wouldn't think it would do if it was using AC instead of DC. There are two mech's on ebay that I have been staring at the pictures of, but they don't mention what machine they came out of. Thanks, Mark "Merlin Amusements" wrote in message . com... The ES160 mech works on AC voltage and the ESII works on DC voltage. The scan switch didn't use optics until the ESIII system came out. I don't have a mech laying around right now, but if I find one, I'll snap a pic. The switch you are looking for is similar on both models. Mike "Mark" wrote in message om... I recently bought a Prestige ES160, the manual I have unfortunately is for an es II 160. They seem to be almost identical, but I'm not sure. |
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NSM started using the ortofon needles with the Prestige2 and City2 models,
IIRC. Mike "Mark" wrote in message om... a missing switch, I don't see anyplace where a switch would be wired to. Does anyone have this same box that could take some pictured of their carriage and send to me? I would really appreciate it. Some NSM carriages use a microswitch, as described in your manual. Some use an optical switch instead, which is probably the case with yours. The optical switch is mounted to the carriage PCB and points straight back towards a metal strip under the record rack. Part of the strip is black, and part is not. When the carriage passes the point where the strip changes, it knows that is the home position, and it figures out the record positions and the ends of the rack from there. Good luck troubleshooting it! Those can be really annoying to get going, in my experience. I do see the optical switch mounted on the pcb, but I don't recall seeing the metal strip that is part black. I will have to look closer when I get home. If I hit the scan switch, it moves all the way to the left. Hitting the switch again, bumps the carriage right, then back to left. It seems to know that it has hit the far left. I am wondering if this is even the carriage that is supposed to be in this machine, since it also has the "ortofon" needles which I thought were on the later models. I think I finally have the power supply troubles fixed and the computer comes up, so I think it is time to put it all back together and see what happens. Those damn 20+ year old electrolytics will get you everytime. It does seem to be quite a pain from what I have read. The price was right though, $20 after raiding the quarters from the coin box. And my wife really likes it, so I guess I will have to keep fighting with it. Thanks, Mark |
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Mike,
This is the Prestige with the Chrome frame, there are no lights around the glass. It does not however have the clear glass, it has a very 70's picture of a rock band on the glass. Someone could have changed the mech I suppose, it is hard to tell since it was not working when I got it. Mark "Merlin Amusements" wrote in message . com... Sounds to me like you have the wrong mech. Is this a prestige with the chrome frame, or with the light organ around the front glass? The one with the chrome had the AC mech and the one with the lights had a DC mech. Both used the ESII system. If it is a Prestige, I don't think NSM ever made one for the ES3 or ES4 system. Which prestige do you have? Mike "Mark" wrote in message om... That confuses me even more. The sticker on the mech in the machine says it is for the ES III/ ES IV. The scan switch does make the carriage move though, which I wouldn't think it would do if it was |
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Definitely the wrong mech. Should be an AC controlled mech with the
reversing switch on the left side. Mike "Mark" wrote in message om... Mike, This is the Prestige with the Chrome frame, there are no lights around the glass. It does not however have the clear glass, it has a very 70's picture of a rock band on the glass. Someone could have changed the mech I suppose, it is hard to tell since it was not working when I got it. Mark "Merlin Amusements" wrote in message . com... Sounds to me like you have the wrong mech. Is this a prestige with the chrome frame, or with the light organ around the front glass? The one with the chrome had the AC mech and the one with the lights had a DC mech. Both used the ESII system. If it is a Prestige, I don't think NSM ever made one for the ES3 or ES4 system. Which prestige do you have? Mike "Mark" wrote in message om... That confuses me even more. The sticker on the mech in the machine says it is for the ES III/ ES IV. The scan switch does make the carriage move though, which I wouldn't think it would do if it was |
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On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 19:15:43 GMT, "Merlin Amusements"
wrote: Definitely the wrong mech. Should be an AC controlled mech with the reversing switch on the left side. Yes, I did a service call on one of those Prestiges a while back. It was in pretty poor shape. I believe the plastic bracket that held the reversing switch in place was completely destroyed. It had been glued back together multiple times, and it was beyond all hope of ever holding together again. Is it possible to use the later-style mech in this machine? I seem to recall that City II's have a jumper option on the amp to select AC or DC motor operation -- maybe this box has that too. The reversing switch might be tougher to get around, though. Probably best to just buy another carriage. At least the one he has will be good for spare parts! |
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