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Finally got enough parts to record 8-tracks to CD.
I have a whole bunch of 8-track, cassette and vinyl records I'm transferring to Hard Drive with the end result = burning a bunch of CDs. (Hows _that_ for an On Topic post?) Tberk |
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Finally got enough parts to record 8-tracks to CD.
On Wed, 14 May 2008 23:59:33 -0700 (PDT), TBerk
wrote: I have a whole bunch of 8-track, cassette and vinyl records I'm transferring to Hard Drive with the end result = burning a bunch of CDs. (Hows _that_ for an On Topic post?) snip I was going to do that, but the 8 tracks are so inferior in overall quality to 256 or 320 JS or ST mp3s, I ****canned them all recently, selling the "collectables" to old-timer 8 track fiends. The rest went to the local Sally Ann. Only three carts actually made it to CD...a long-ago home recorded dub of Frank Zappa's "Absolutly Freeeeee" (1967), which was done on a very good machine by someone who obviously knew something about tape (rare in 8 track), Zappa's "Orchestral Favorites" from a Canadian Dolby cart off my Wollensak 8075 (turned out quite nice, about the same as 3¾ RTR) and Chicago XIX and CTA II. Everything else was too limited in bandwidth, suffered from partial erasure due to sloppy maintenance, had "crinkles" and/or had all the other usual 8 track crap...out they went. The startling reality? Everything I ****canned was available on either high bit rate mp3s, many using a later encoder such as LAME, or I got the CDs. Some of the more popular titles were candidates for dubbing, but upon evaluation using the best deck available, they fell far short of making it and were replaced by CDA or mp3. However, when only a 128 Kb/s mp3 is available, and especially if it was done with the notoriously bad old Xing encoder, 8 track quality is pretty competitive, because 128s sound so ratty with all that hacking and slashing taking place. But once you get up to 256 (or a high big rate VBR), it's clear...a GOOD mp3 rip (caveat being not all ARE good; there are many plonkers out there like Charlie Nudo who don't know their asses from a soggy Kaiser roll) beats 8 track any day, and in all ways. It was a fun diversion...until I realized that hey...it doesn't matter HOW much tweaking and rebuilding I do of the machines, nor how much servicing and splicing of these carts I do...it all adds up to the same damned thing...a ****ty format! Having Charlie Nudo being one of the biggest fraudsters in the 8 track business, as well as one of its biggest kOOks, was the icing on the cake for me. |
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Finally got enough parts to record 8-tracks to CD.
On May 15, 2:59*am, TBerk wrote:
I have a whole bunch of 8-track, cassette and vinyl records I'm transferring to Hard Drive with the end result = burning a bunch of CDs. (Hows _that_ for an On Topic post?) Tberk real 8-trackers prefer analog tape and vinyl burning an 8-track to CD is counterproductive, and lossy |
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DeserTBob the Usenet Troll, admits he never really was any good at8-tracks
On May 15, 3:38*am, DeserTBoB wrote:
On Wed, 14 May 2008 23:59:33 -0700 (PDT), TBerk wrote: I have a whole bunch of 8-track, cassette and vinyl records I'm transferring to Hard Drive with the end result = burning a bunch of CDs. (Hows _that_ for an On Topic post?) snip I was going to do that, but the 8 tracks are so inferior in overall quality to 256 or 320 JS or ST mp3s, I ****canned them all recently, selling the "collectables" to old-timer 8 track fiends. *The rest went to the local Sally Ann. Only three carts actually made it to CD...a long-ago home recorded dub of Frank Zappa's "Absolutly Freeeeee" (1967), which was done on a very good machine by someone who obviously knew something about tape (rare in 8 track), Zappa's "Orchestral Favorites" from a Canadian Dolby cart off my Wollensak 8075 (turned out quite nice, about the same as 3¾ RTR) and Chicago XIX and CTA II. *Everything else was too limited in bandwidth, suffered from partial erasure due to sloppy maintenance, had "crinkles" and/or had all the other usual 8 track crap...out they went. *The startling reality? *Everything I ****canned was available on either high bit rate mp3s, many using a later encoder such as LAME, or I got the CDs. *Some of the more popular titles were candidates for dubbing, but upon evaluation using the best deck available, they fell far short of making it and were replaced by CDA or mp3. *However, when only a 128 Kb/s mp3 is available, and especially if it was done with the notoriously bad old Xing encoder, 8 track quality is pretty competitive, because 128s sound so ratty with all that hacking and slashing taking place. *But once you get up to 256 (or a high big rate VBR), it's clear...a GOOD mp3 rip (caveat being not all ARE good; there are many plonkers out there like Charlie Nudo who don't know their asses from a soggy Kaiser roll) beats 8 track any day, and in all ways. It was a fun diversion...until I realized that hey...it doesn't matter HOW much tweaking and rebuilding I do of the machines, nor how much servicing and splicing of these carts I do...it all adds up to the same damned thing...a ****ty format! * I always said DeserTBob was a part-timer who had no real desire to enjoy the 8-track format- he was a low-life cassette dumb-ass, who stumbled in here after he lost his job with Bell Systems and went insane- so after rehab he took up something he thought was "easy" like 8-tracks. The problem is, he never had a decent single ended tube amp to play them through. see ya, DoucheBoob...no 8-tracks for you ! only a dumb-ass would transfer 8's to CD, why bother, that's defeating the whole purpose |
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Finally got enough parts to record 8-tracks to CD.
On Thu, 15 May 2008 08:19:31 -0700 (PDT), trippin-2-8-track
wrote: real 8-trackers prefer analog tape and vinyl snip ....usually because, like you, they can't afford CDs nor burners. burning an 8-track to CD is counterproductive, and lossy snip 'Ey, STUNOD! Explain to me, even with your limited intelligence and mental defects, who dubbing a "mid-fi" source onto a highly superior format is somehow "lossy." I did it...time and again...you dub an 8 track to a PCM file and play it back, it sounds like the 8 track. You dub any decent digital source to an 8 track and play it back, the result sounds like...and 8 track. Further proof that Charlie Nudo talks through his asshole. |
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DeserTBob the Usenet Troll, admits he never really was any good at 8-tracks
On Thu, 15 May 2008 08:22:48 -0700 (PDT), trippin-2-8-track
wrote: I always said DeserTBob was a part-timer who had no real desire to enjoy the 8-track format- he was a low-life cassette dumb-ass, who stumbled in here after he lost his job with Bell Systems and went insane- so after rehab he took up something he thought was "easy" like 8-tracks. The problem is, he never had a decent single ended tube amp to play them through. see ya, DoucheBoob...no 8-tracks for you ! only a dumb-ass would transfer 8's to CD, why bother, that's defeating the whole purpose snip Your post is so filled with stupidity, there's no real reason to counter your "arguments"...all of which are products of an infantile, uneducated mind. |
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how to tweak a welfare-check sucking California liberal lowlife- allit takes it the truth...
On May 15, 11:38*am, DeserTBoB wrote:
On Thu, 15 May 2008 08:22:48 -0700 (PDT), trippin-2-8-track wrote: I always said DeserTBob was a part-timer who had no real desire to enjoy the 8-track format- he was a low-life cassette dumb-ass, who stumbled in here after he lost his job with Bell Systems and went insane- so after rehab he took up something he thought was "easy" like 8-tracks. The problem is, he never had a decent single ended tube amp to play them through. see ya, DoucheBoob...no 8-tracks for you ! only a dumb-ass would transfer 8's to CD, why bother, that's defeating the whole purpose snip Your post is so filled with stupidity, there's no real reason to counter your "arguments"...all of which are products of an infantile, uneducated mind. yet you're the one who FLUNKED OUT of free welfare college at UCLA... while I worked my way through college, earned 2 degrees, and developed a 130 IQ meanwhile, you don't work, after being FIRED by Bell Systems for poor work history ten years ago, you never got another job, so you collect a fraudulent SSI disability claim- sucking off the welfare cash cow- and food stamps (laughter...) |
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how to tweak a mercury sucking NE Penny lowlife coal mining ginzo- all it takes it the truth...
On Thu, 15 May 2008 09:28:20 -0700 (PDT), trippin-2-8-track
wrote: yet you're the one who FLUNKED OUT of free welfare college at UCLA... snip Firstly, even an idiot knows that ANY UC school is NOT FREE...in fact, UCLA is a very expensive school to get through to a degree. Secondly, you wouldn't know that, since you barely made it through high school...or did you? while I worked my way through college, earned 2 degrees, and developed a 130 IQ snip STUGOTS! You don't "develop" an IQ, moron. Charlie Nudo outed as a fraud yet again! "Degrees in banking and electronics?" I don't think so; proof is here in this NG that you don't even know what a capacitor is or does. Your best foray into "higher education" was the auto shop at Ridgeview HS in Mountain Flop, where they put all the 'tards too stupid to make it in the college prep track. meanwhile, you don't work, after being FIRED by Bell Systems for poor work history ten years ago, you never got another job, so you collect a fraudulent SSI disability claim- sucking off the welfare cash cow- and food stamps (laughter...) snip Talk to a lawyer about your tax evasion problems, because if someone should come after you after the IRS has driven you into poverty, you still have to respond to the summons...and will have liens filed against anything you still have. Charlie Nudo...slave for life. |
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Charlie Nudo the Usenet Tard, shows he wouldn't know good sound from bad
All you have to do is scan this NG's archives since 2001...the facts
are there. This guy's a mental Superfund site! |
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Finally got enough parts to record 8-tracks to CD.
On May 15, 8:19 am, trippin-2-8-track wrote:
On May 15, 2:59 wrote: I have a whole bunch of 8-track, cassette and vinyl records I'm transferring to Hard Drive with the end result = burning a bunch of CDs. (Hows _that_ for an On Topic post?) Tberk real 8-trackers prefer analog tape and vinyl burning an 8-track to CD is counterproductive, and lossy Well, (If we can stay on topic,) 1) the original tapes are degrading, to the point they can't be played too much. 2) The Owner asked me to, so i said OK. 3) By working through troubles and bumps in the road I get real life experience, working w/ surplus equipment the cost is low. TBerk |
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