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PS: check the grey box connections also
Jim W "Happy Seeburg Olympian Owner" wrote in message k.net... The same thing happend to mine. it was the RCA jack had a broken wire in it check the whole cable for nicks if it shorts agains the metal it wont trip the mech properly make sure the rRCA jack is clan and making good contact make a slection see if it picks it up if not: with the upper door open make a slection or just start the mech from service switch unplug the RCA jack while it is scanning and plug it back in it should pick up a slection if it does the that is not the problem it may be further in the DCC. Jim W "Terry Kuhns" wrote in message om... I have a Seeburg SPS160 with a problem I hope someone can help me figure out...the machine will start up fine but when you punch in a selection the carriage (?) will run back and forth one or two times and then stop without picking out the selection. The owner told me it used to work fine but over time it started acting up now and then but has now gotten to the point where it will not pick up any selection. So far I have cleaned the bar (the one with the solid brass rail and the row of round "dots") and the leaf switches but that did not make any difference. I can manually make it pick up a record and it plays just fine and will reject the record when you push the reject button. Can someone tell me where I need to start with this problem or what to look for? Thanks in advance, Terry Kuhns |
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"Happy Seeburg Olympian Owner" wrote in message nk.net...
PS: check the grey box connections also Jim W "Happy Seeburg Olympian Owner" wrote in message k.net... The same thing happend to mine. it was the RCA jack had a broken wire in it check the whole cable for nicks if it shorts agains the metal it wont trip the mech properly make sure the rRCA jack is clan and making good contact make a slection see if it picks it up if not: with the upper door open make a slection or just start the mech from service switch unplug the RCA jack while it is scanning and plug it back in it should pick up a slection if it does the that is not the problem it may be further in the DCC. Jim W Thanks for the insighton where to start looking, Jim, I'm going to try to get out to look at this machine later today. I'll let you know what I run into!! Thanks, Terry K |
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it was the RCA jack had a broken wire in it check the whole cable for
nicks if it shorts agains the metal it wont trip the mech properly make sure the rRCA jack is clan and making good contact make a slection see if it picks it up if not: with the upper door open make a slection or just start the mech from service switch unplug the RCA jack while it is scanning and plug it back in it should pick up a slection if it does the that is not the problem it may be further in the DCC. Jim W Thanks for the insighton where to start looking, Jim, I'm going to try to get out to look at this machine later today. I'll let you know what I run into!! Thanks, Terry K Hi Jim, I checked out everything you said about. I unplugged the rca jack , started it scanning and plugged the jack back in but it just kept on scanning as before.. I also checked the plugs on every board and they seemed nice and shiny and I also cleaned the pads where the plugs mounted.... What should I check next? thanks, Terry |
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Check the 2 single wire connectors inside the front, lower left.
One connector has a yellow wire on each side with one end going to a yellow connector under the small panel that has the mech.start & credit switches. The other is another single wire connector, one side is white/brown and the other side is white/black. These two connect together. I had somehow reversed at a dim lit site and saw the same problem you have. Brian "Terry Kuhns" wrote in message om... it was the RCA jack had a broken wire in it check the whole cable for nicks if it shorts agains the metal it wont trip the mech properly make sure the rRCA jack is clan and making good contact make a slection see if it picks it up if not: with the upper door open make a slection or just start the mech from service switch unplug the RCA jack while it is scanning and plug it back in it should pick up a slection if it does the that is not the problem it may be further in the DCC. Jim W Thanks for the insighton where to start looking, Jim, I'm going to try to get out to look at this machine later today. I'll let you know what I run into!! Thanks, Terry K Hi Jim, I checked out everything you said about. I unplugged the rca jack , started it scanning and plugged the jack back in but it just kept on scanning as before.. I also checked the plugs on every board and they seemed nice and shiny and I also cleaned the pads where the plugs mounted.... What should I check next? thanks, Terry |
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"amyotte" wrote in message ...
Check the 2 single wire connectors inside the front, lower left. One connector has a yellow wire on each side with one end going to a yellow connector under the small panel that has the mech.start & credit switches. The other is another single wire connector, one side is white/brown and the other side is white/black. These two connect together. I had somehow reversed at a dim lit site and saw the same problem you have. Brian Thanks Brian, I will check those wires too just to be sure :-) I finally got it home to where I can work on it with the proper tools! First thing I need to do is replace/repair blown 6 1/4 amp fuse which got blown by accident. From what I have read these are hard to find and expensive when you do. I also read where you can repair with newer style holder and fuse. I think I'll do the latter... Thanks again for the info! -Terry "Terry Kuhns" wrote in message om... it was the RCA jack had a broken wire in it check the whole cable for nicks if it shorts agains the metal it wont trip the mech properly make sure the rRCA jack is clan and making good contact make a slection see if it picks it up if not: with the upper door open make a slection or just start the mech from service switch unplug the RCA jack while it is scanning and plug it back in it should pick up a slection if it does the that is not the problem it may be further in the DCC. Jim W Thanks for the insighton where to start looking, Jim, I'm going to try to get out to look at this machine later today. I'll let you know what I run into!! Thanks, Terry K Hi Jim, I checked out everything you said about. I unplugged the rca jack , started it scanning and plugged the jack back in but it just kept on scanning as before.. I also checked the plugs on every board and they seemed nice and shiny and I also cleaned the pads where the plugs mounted.... What should I check next? thanks, Terry |
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Terry Kuhns wrote:
I have checked several things out and one thing that doesn't seem right to me I will pose as a question he I was testing the RCA wires for shorts with my DMM. I unplugged all the jacks (1 at the DCC and the 2 at the service switch) With my DMM on continuity buzz tone I checked the cable from the DCC to the service switch putting the black lead on the outer case and the red lead on the 'tit'. No buzz which tells me no short between center wire and the ground wire. I then took the black lead and put it on the 'tit' on the other end plug and got buzzed. Cool, wire is good, not shorted. I then checked the one going to the tormat. I put one lead on the outer case and the other lead on the 'tit'. It buzzed telling me the center wire and the outer wires are shorted together. Am I right for thinking this? If so, is this cable replaceable? The cable going into the tormat will have a very low resistance, which will look like a short. This is normal. Have you wiggled the rca plug in and out of the DCC jack while the juke is searching for a selection and it still didn't select? If so you probably have a bad DCC. Start out by changing all the electrolytic capacitors in it, and cleaning the plug connections on the circuit boards. -- Tony |
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Tony Miklos wrote in message ...
Terry Kuhns wrote: I have checked several things out and one thing that doesn't seem right to me I will pose as a question he I was testing the RCA wires for shorts with my DMM. I unplugged all the jacks (1 at the DCC and the 2 at the service switch) With my DMM on continuity buzz tone I checked the cable from the DCC to the service switch putting the black lead on the outer case and the red lead on the 'tit'. No buzz which tells me no short between center wire and the ground wire. I then took the black lead and put it on the 'tit' on the other end plug and got buzzed. Cool, wire is good, not shorted. I then checked the one going to the tormat. I put one lead on the outer case and the other lead on the 'tit'. It buzzed telling me the center wire and the outer wires are shorted together. Am I right for thinking this? If so, is this cable replaceable? The cable going into the tormat will have a very low resistance, which will look like a short. This is normal. Have you wiggled the rca plug in and out of the DCC jack while the juke is searching for a selection and it still didn't select? If so you probably have a bad DCC. Start out by changing all the electrolytic capacitors in it, and cleaning the plug connections on the circuit boards. Tony, I have tried wiggling the jacks, even tried the battery test but the result was still the same. I have checked/cleaned all the plugs and plug connections so my next step will be to replace all the elect. caps as you said. I have replaced 2 of them on the power supply board as 1 was broken off and the other was leaking. I guess caps are caps and just like on the older pins it is best to replace them, eliminates a lot of trouble down the road!! Thanks for the info on where to go next!! -Terry |
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Hi there. When you cleaned "the bar with the tits" was this the bar
"above " the magazine rack, or the one "below" (you need to remove the front door and lay on the floor in the "Seeburg position" and look up at the Tormat bar) The lower bar is what needs to be clean to find records, the upper one just makes the lites to the selection numbers work (I do believe). Clean the bar with a "plastic safe" solvent, and then scrub with an eraser to remove guk. Ron Rich has a great booklet available for repairing these kinds of problems, it sure helped me! I know he has a hyperlink on Mr. Tony Millers website. Yours, Joe |
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