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$100,000 Gold Certificate
I know there are only 2 or 3 $100,000 Gold Certificates survived and they
are all in the museums. No private individual ever own one. Strangely, two persons in the past month asked me how much is one worth because they have several and want to sell them. They claimed the notes are genuine.One sent me front and back scans. Front http://tomchao.com/ebay/goldcertf.jpg Back http://tomchao.com/ebay/goldcertb.jpg They look obviously fake. Are they counterfeits, replicas or what? They do have different serial numbers. So probably not replicas. But too poor quality to be believable counterfeits. I'm also wondering where they came from? By the way one guy was kind enough to offer me 20% discount off face value. |
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 18:09:00 -0400, "Thomas Chao"
wrote: I know there are only 2 or 3 $100,000 Gold Certificates survived and they are all in the museums. No private individual ever own one. Strangely, two persons in the past month asked me how much is one worth because they have several and want to sell them. They claimed the notes are genuine.One sent me front and back scans. Front http://tomchao.com/ebay/goldcertf.jpg Back http://tomchao.com/ebay/goldcertb.jpg They look obviously fake. Are they counterfeits, replicas or what? They do have different serial numbers. So probably not replicas. But too poor quality to be believable counterfeits. I'm also wondering where they came from? Who knows. A real one is here http://tomchao.com/na/us12.html. By the way one guy was kind enough to offer me 20% discount off face value. How nice of him! You might express interest and arrange for a "viewing" of the notes with the intention to buy them - and have a Secret Service agent handy. That might be fun! Padraic. la cieurgeourea provoer mal trasfu ast meiyoer ke 'l andrext ben trasfu. |
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You have to wonder that the person whom wrote you copied the note from your
site and just photoshopped the serials. Dave -- emails to (myuserid).at.lycos.com Don't vote for a Washington Fat Cat, vote for a Black Cat "Padraic Brown" wrote in message ... On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 18:09:00 -0400, "Thomas Chao" wrote: I know there are only 2 or 3 $100,000 Gold Certificates survived and they are all in the museums. No private individual ever own one. Strangely, two persons in the past month asked me how much is one worth because they have several and want to sell them. They claimed the notes are genuine.One sent me front and back scans. Front http://tomchao.com/ebay/goldcertf.jpg Back http://tomchao.com/ebay/goldcertb.jpg They look obviously fake. Are they counterfeits, replicas or what? They do have different serial numbers. So probably not replicas. But too poor quality to be believable counterfeits. I'm also wondering where they came from? Who knows. A real one is here http://tomchao.com/na/us12.html. By the way one guy was kind enough to offer me 20% discount off face value. How nice of him! You might express interest and arrange for a "viewing" of the notes with the intention to buy them - and have a Secret Service agent handy. That might be fun! Padraic. la cieurgeourea provoer mal trasfu ast meiyoer ke 'l andrext ben trasfu. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.760 / Virus Database: 509 - Release Date: 9/10/04 |
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Dave wrote:
You have to wonder that the person whom wrote you copied the note from your site and just photoshopped the serials. Ha! Didn't even realise I'd chosen as an example of a legitimate note the one from Tom's site! :S Padraic. Don't vote for a Washington Fat Cat, vote for a Black Cat "Padraic Brown" wrote in message ... On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 18:09:00 -0400, "Thomas Chao" wrote: I know there are only 2 or 3 $100,000 Gold Certificates survived and they are all in the museums. No private individual ever own one. Strangely, two persons in the past month asked me how much is one worth because they have several and want to sell them. They claimed the notes are genuine.One sent me front and back scans. Front http://tomchao.com/ebay/goldcertf.jpg Back http://tomchao.com/ebay/goldcertb.jpg They look obviously fake. Are they counterfeits, replicas or what? They do have different serial numbers. So probably not replicas. But too poor quality to be believable counterfeits. I'm also wondering where they came from? Who knows. A real one is here http://tomchao.com/na/us12.html. la cieurgeourea provoer mal trasfu ast meiyoer ke 'l andrext ben trasfu. |
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No, It's not copy from the real note. Look closely:
1. paper tinted yellow to look antique. Real note has white paper. Perhaps with red and white linen threads. 2. The position of "Gold" of Gold Certificate overprinted on the gold seal is too high up. Compare with the real note on my site. 3. The overall quality, especially the back design, is rather poor. See how sharp the real note looks? 4. The note have Series of 1934A on the top left and Series of 1934 at the botoom right. Two different series appear on the same note? 5. Look at the top of your note. "TH" and "IS" of THIS IS TO CERTIFY.... is uneven Looks like two halves stitch together for copying. "Scottishmoney" wrote in message ... You have to wonder that the person whom wrote you copied the note from your site and just photoshopped the serials. Dave -- emails to (myuserid).at.lycos.com Don't vote for a Washington Fat Cat, vote for a Black Cat "Padraic Brown" wrote in message ... On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 18:09:00 -0400, "Thomas Chao" wrote: I know there are only 2 or 3 $100,000 Gold Certificates survived and they are all in the museums. No private individual ever own one. Strangely, two persons in the past month asked me how much is one worth because they have several and want to sell them. They claimed the notes are genuine.One sent me front and back scans. Front http://tomchao.com/ebay/goldcertf.jpg Back http://tomchao.com/ebay/goldcertb.jpg They look obviously fake. Are they counterfeits, replicas or what? They do have different serial numbers. So probably not replicas. But too poor quality to be believable counterfeits. I'm also wondering where they came from? Who knows. A real one is here http://tomchao.com/na/us12.html. By the way one guy was kind enough to offer me 20% discount off face value. How nice of him! You might express interest and arrange for a "viewing" of the notes with the intention to buy them - and have a Secret Service agent handy. That might be fun! Padraic. la cieurgeourea provoer mal trasfu ast meiyoer ke 'l andrext ben trasfu. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.760 / Virus Database: 509 - Release Date: 9/10/04 |
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Well, the guy that sent me the gold certificate earlier admitted it was a
fake. Blamed on his lawyer. Here's his story: i have made some investigation about the notes that my grandfather left me. the notes i sent you last time was from the lawyer i was talking about unfortunately, he gave me a fake one so that i would not pursue any transactions on the notes and keep it for himself. as we speak, he is in hiding with an undisclosed amount of money from our family assets. i was able to find the Gold Certificate NOTE (attached) in one of the Files his former secretary gave me the other day. We have pressed charges against this lawyer and so far no one has seen him. what can you say about the note attached? Thanks Tom!! please let me know if the note i have has any worth and can be redeemed or even make any money out of it. The note does look genuine. Any experts out there? I do not know the value since none were ever put on the market. I guessestimate (just off my head) is 3 or 4 times the face value if genuine. Front: http://tomchao.com/ebay/goldcert2f.jpg Back http://tomchao.com/ebay/goldcert2b.jpg I might suggest he put it out at ebay. "Thomas Chao" wrote in message ... I know there are only 2 or 3 $100,000 Gold Certificates survived and they are all in the museums. No private individual ever own one. Strangely, two persons in the past month asked me how much is one worth because they have several and want to sell them. They claimed the notes are genuine.One sent me front and back scans. Front http://tomchao.com/ebay/goldcertf.jpg Back http://tomchao.com/ebay/goldcertb.jpg They look obviously fake. Are they counterfeits, replicas or what? They do have different serial numbers. So probably not replicas. But too poor quality to be believable counterfeits. I'm also wondering where they came from? By the way one guy was kind enough to offer me 20% discount off face value. |
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On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 16:28:11 -0400, "Thomas Chao"
wrote: Front: http://tomchao.com/ebay/goldcert2f.jpg Back http://tomchao.com/ebay/goldcert2b.jpg I might suggest he put it out at ebay. Wow. Now that would be an interesting auction if it's real! Padraic. la cieurgeourea provoer mal trasfu ast meiyoer ke 'l andrext ben trasfu. |
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This one looks to be genuine (as opposed to the obvious fakes mentioned
earlier). This is a bold statement coming from me because I am convinced there are none (and have never been any) in private hands. At least, I was convinced up until a few moments ago. Granted, I have only these scans to go on, but there seems to be something about it that suggests reality to me. If it is genuine (and that's a fairly big "if") I would suggest it is almost certainly unique in the market and as such, could command any price you could imagine. Even in this condition (stained, corner missing etc.) I would suggest as much as 10 (that's ten) times face value or more. Only problem is, it's actually illegal to own one, so selling it might be a problem. However if I had a lazy million, and it proved to be genuine, I might even think about it, but keep it quiet ok! "Thomas Chao" wrote in message ... Well, the guy that sent me the gold certificate earlier admitted it was a fake. Blamed on his lawyer. Here's his story: i have made some investigation about the notes that my grandfather left me. the notes i sent you last time was from the lawyer i was talking about unfortunately, he gave me a fake one so that i would not pursue any transactions on the notes and keep it for himself. as we speak, he is in hiding with an undisclosed amount of money from our family assets. i was able to find the Gold Certificate NOTE (attached) in one of the Files his former secretary gave me the other day. We have pressed charges against this lawyer and so far no one has seen him. what can you say about the note attached? Thanks Tom!! please let me know if the note i have has any worth and can be redeemed or even make any money out of it. The note does look genuine. Any experts out there? I do not know the value since none were ever put on the market. I guessestimate (just off my head) is 3 or 4 times the face value if genuine. Front: http://tomchao.com/ebay/goldcert2f.jpg Back http://tomchao.com/ebay/goldcert2b.jpg I might suggest he put it out at ebay. "Thomas Chao" wrote in message ... I know there are only 2 or 3 $100,000 Gold Certificates survived and they are all in the museums. No private individual ever own one. Strangely, two persons in the past month asked me how much is one worth because they have several and want to sell them. They claimed the notes are genuine.One sent me front and back scans. Front http://tomchao.com/ebay/goldcertf.jpg Back http://tomchao.com/ebay/goldcertb.jpg They look obviously fake. Are they counterfeits, replicas or what? They do have different serial numbers. So probably not replicas. But too poor quality to be believable counterfeits. I'm also wondering where they came from? By the way one guy was kind enough to offer me 20% discount off face value. |
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Padraic Brown wrote in message . ..
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 16:28:11 -0400, "Thomas Chao" wrote: Front: http://tomchao.com/ebay/goldcert2f.jpg Back http://tomchao.com/ebay/goldcert2b.jpg I might suggest he put it out at ebay. Wow. Now that would be an interesting auction if it's real! Padraic. la cieurgeourea provoer mal trasfu ast meiyoer ke 'l andrext ben trasfu. I wonder what the Secret Service would have to say about all of this? |
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Im sure these notes were all accounted for at the Fed many years ago.
Thomas Chao wrote: I know there are only 2 or 3 $100,000 Gold Certificates survived and they are all in the museums. No private individual ever own one. Strangely, two persons in the past month asked me how much is one worth because they have several and want to sell them. They claimed the notes are genuine.One sent me front and back scans. Front http://tomchao.com/ebay/goldcertf.jpg Back http://tomchao.com/ebay/goldcertb.jpg They look obviously fake. Are they counterfeits, replicas or what? They do have different serial numbers. So probably not replicas. But too poor quality to be believable counterfeits. I'm also wondering where they came from? By the way one guy was kind enough to offer me 20% discount off face value. |
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