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You don't need to try to convince me of anything. If you think you
can get prices and want to profit...so be it. On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:49:19 +0100, "fon" wrote: Sue check out the final price and its not by a new ebayer "fon" wrote in message ... Sue Don't you think this is a little high for a Dave Prowse http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...Name= MERC_VI "fon" wrote in message ... I find that with the Celebration II signed photos only carrie comes up a lot the smaller guests only appear from time to time and you need to catch them cheap while you can. I think the silver logo in the corner is fantastic ans really make the photo that much more special. I wish I could go to CIII but I'm getting married in Cuba next year so all money goes to that. I can't see myself going next weekend unless they are someone special, I want to meet Leslie Schofield as I've not done before and also want Jeremy Bolluch 'flying solo' book as its limited to only 2000 copies I can't see it lasting to long. Just read my local sunday paper and I hear Demi Moore will be here in south wales filming soon, any idea on what shes like in person she'll be with her boyfriend but I can't remember his name. Also just found out that Jennifer Love Hewit was here last month so I'm dissapointed as I've never had an In Person appart from at cons. Jason "dahoov2" wrote in message ... Wow, 5-10? You got a FANTASTIC deal! Those even though way down in price for a while (and I figure they'll go up just a little during CIII) are still holding for more than originally paid. So you did get a great deal. There was one guy making reprints and saying they were 'real' so be aware for that. Those were going about the prices you mentioned. Supposedly, they were putting those holographic logos on there so no one could copy them; and were gonna go after those who did. But as always, people get away with crap. Good luck on Ford; if you don't throw too much at him, I heard he was nice, except I hear that since he was with Flockhart, he's not AS nice. On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 09:41:56 +0100, "fon" wrote: Having worked out the maths it would probably be about the same price to fly out to celebration from here (air fares are getting cheaper by the day) then for me to drive to collectamania (350 miles round trip) stay in a hotel and get all 30 autographs. As yoda my say 'sense it makes not' I'm going harrison ford hunting in a few weeks as he's taking a fancy to my country Wales. He was here last month and is said to have loved it. He's apparently set to by a boat for over here. So hopefully I sense a little holiday coming on in North Wales. Carrie fisher did a private convention in london last year. She was the only guest, and it was something like £20 entrance fee and £35 a signed photo. Limited to one a person and she would not allow photos to be taken of her. I've heard loads of bad reports about Billy Dee and he has canceled Collectamania in the past as has Gary Kurtz. So I'll have to wait and see on that one. I've picked up about 10 celebration II photos so far and most have been between $5 and $10 apart from your carrie fisher. I met Peter at the last collectamania and he didn't even look up, didn't ask if I wanted made out to anybody, so I was a little dissapointed. Jason "dahoov2" wrote in message news Yeah, Carrie charges a lot more these days and Hamill is insane too.. now if you're talking 60-80 for Harrison Ford, lol, we have a deal working ... Now that is one to me that would be more worth it. Every autograph at CII was only 12.00 at the time, but truth? Carrie Fisher's no one would sell for that low if they stood in line. I heard people stood in line over 8 hours and didn't even get the sig...wasted their whole entrance fee (which ty the was was pricy) and didn't get to see anything! And to top it off, she's not a very nice woman. I got in early with the help of someone.... and I was probably in line on only 50 back at most and by the time I got there, they'd changed the amount you could get, the inscriptions you were allowed and she was NASTY. Billy Dee's line was crazy too, you probably had to wait a couple hour for him. He too, wasn't very nice. He grunted and hardly looked up and was bothered to be there. As was Peter Mayhew, but he was sick I think. I expect them to be charging 15-20 at the next event. With the turnout last time, there's no way they'll probably do them that cheap again, but if they do, I'll try to help out if I can. But no way I am doing as many as last time. And no special orders either! Like this thread here and my advice to you, I learned from last time.... Gary Kurtz is a director; so only real enthusiasts will care. I bet a lot of people going will ask who he is. On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 00:52:39 +0100, "fon" wrote: At celebration was it $12 each even for people like carrie fisher. That seemed like a great deal because you could probably buy one of each for less then $500. The celebration photos are very nice as I've started to buy then I even bought a carrie Fisher off you a few months ago which is one of my prized autographs. But we are having 30 Guests here and looking to pay at least double that, something is wrong somewhere. You make an even stronger point when you say most of the small roles come from the UK. Sometimes I find the guest is just sat there most of the day because eveyone has already got your autograph. The was a pretty good guest announced last night that I'm not sure if your aware of and thats Gary Kurtz. He hasn't done much over here so will probably be a £20 man "dahoov2" wrote in message .. . Don't have to convince me... if you want to do this, go ahead. Like I said a bazillion times already; if you think someone will buy go for it. But I sure as hell not pay that much! Moakare's card from Topps isn't getting much. It's plummeted recently ... I've seen several sell in the 20-25 range and suspect, as time goes on, he will be like Warwick Davis, Bulloch and Prowse............. making their living at this and can't even sell ones you bought for $10 later on. Just like some of the ones I had.... no one interested at they're plentiful and a dime a dozen. On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 21:43:40 +0100, "fon" wrote: and another who you guys say is easy to get http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3814832009 again at $80 "fon" wrote in message ... another http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...8&item=3827235 3 2 3 at $80 "fon" wrote in message ... here check it out for yourself http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...8&item=3827445 4 2 3 "dahoov2" wrote in message ... Dave Prowse signed here for 20.00 US which is just over 11 pounds for you... weird huh? He flies all the way across the ocean out of his own country and charges LESS?! They sell for 15-25 here usually, but in US dollars... so there's a big difference. A lot cheaper for you to buy here than us to buy there. At Celebration, autographs were 12.00 each US. But they were limited and collectible; so they got more in auctions because 1) they were so cheap and 2) there were a TON of guests (over 40) and so you could collect them all.... and a lot of people wanted to do that. For a while, they were selling from 30-150 each and now you can get them half that depending on who it is you're getting (Fisher and Williams sell higher). Anyway, don't let me or anyone here tell you what you should do. If you want to sell them go ahead. Now you know all the fees involved and can judge better; and maybe some idea of what'll sell and what won't... and of that guy who sold 5, WHAT did he sell? Something very popular and rarer or something common... take that into consideration too. On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 16:45:34 +0100, "fon" wrote: A slighty different subject. What prices do guests tend to charge in the US. Here £15 is pretty standard and £20 is seen more and more. I've even seen Dave Prowse sign for £25 which is about $45. I know we have a high exchange rate but the prices here are going mad. I hear at collectamania there maybe a few £25 ones. You said about bookmarking the page. In the last 2 weeks I've seen him sell about 5. I will be honest and say I was looking at going next week for 1 autograph and thought after seeing his web site that if I could sell a few at a price which I didn't thnk was to bad it would help cover my costs. Not to MAKE money but help my costs. I've seen your posts and understand and probably agree with everything you have said. I didn't think about it enough, I didn't work out the costs fully. I made a mistake and am honest enough to say that. I didn't intend to go out and rip people off. Looking at my ebay listing the way I worded it sucked really and it wasn't fully done well. In October we have 30 starwars guest who will be charging between £15 and £25 even if all 30 charged £15 that makes £450, close to about $800. How much were the charges at Celebration II last year. Jason "dahoov2" wrote in message .. . bookmark that and note there are 17 buy it nows. Keep track and see how many he sells... that's all I have to say. This will be your guide to whether what you are doing is a good idea or not. But one word of advice if I may. If you are doing it to make money and NOT just to help collectors... then be honest. those are prices to make money; not just to help your buddies. That's why some celebs stop signing... they see that like you saw it, get the absurd notion their sigs are worth that much and see dollar signs and never sign again for free... thereby ending the joy of collecting. There is no joy to paying 60.00 for an elf who was on screen two seconds with no lines. At least not for me. I feel all I am doing in lining someone's pockets when outside the little LOTR community, nobody even knows who the hell those guys are! Imagine telling your neighbor who saw the film but does not know the names of the actors and asks you about your autograph. Here's the conversation I hear: (Friend) wow, cool! That's from LOTR? (You) Yeah, I bought it from a guy who got it for me at a convention (Friend) So you didn't meet him? How much did you pay for it if you don't mind my asking? (You) No, I didn't meet him. Paid 60. for it (Friend) that's a lot, but it's from LOTR right? Say, where in the movie was he again? I can't remember (You) he was the guy in the battle scene on the wall ... remember that? He was the fifth guy in the back... you can see his face a little after so and so say.... (friend) (I will leave this to your own imagination; I am sure there's a varying about of explitive and other things to insert here) When prices were 10 or 15 US dollars, it was tolerable. they went to 20 and were getting pricy with shipping. Now, it's just plain RIDICULOUS. The buck stops here. On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 15:46:17 +0100, "fon" wrote: click on this link if you thought I was expensive... http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...ms&userid=fina l f r o ntieruk&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50 "fon" wrote in message ... Your points are very valued as as you can tell this was going to be my first time. Only 2 things if I may add to what you have said. The first I was going to sent the photo insured which I guess is more then £2 (again only guessing) and secondly like I pointed out in my first post I'm only going for the Jeremy Bulloch signed book so I have to travel close to 250 miles and an entrance fee of £10 plus an absurd car park fee of £8. I am the first to admit that I didn't look into it fully and rushed things a bit but the event is next saturday. Can I please add that if I had got things cheaper then then next one would have been cheaper. It was a first attemp and caused a lot of upset. Jason "dahoov2" wrote in message ... On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 09:36:04 -0400, dahoov2 wrote: Here for reference is Ebays Fees: Starting Price, Opening Value or Reserve Price Insertion Fee $0.01 - $0.99 $0.30 $1.00 - $9.99 $0.35 $10.00 - $24.99 $0.60 $25.00 - $49.99 $1.20 $50.00 - $199.99 $2.40 $200.00 - $499.99 $3.60 $500.00 and up $4.80 Your fee is 35 cents Reserve fees: Reserve Price Reserve Price Auction Fee $0.01 - $49.99 $1.00 $50.00 - $199.99 $2.00 $200.00 and up 1% of Reserve Price (with a maximum of $100.00) Did you have one? Photo fees: Feature Fee First picture FREE! Each additional Picture $0.15 Preview Picture Free Slide Show $0.75 Supersize Image $0.75 Picture Pack $1.00 (a $1.75 value) for up to 6 pictures or $1.50 for Yours was free I believe you only had one Special things (I don't think you had anything -you may have had buy it now, but that's only 5 cents) Listing Upgrade Listing Upgrade Fee Home Page Featured $39.95 (single quantity) or $79.95 (quantity of 2 or more) Featured Plus! $19.95 Highlight $5.00 Border $3.00 Item Subtitle $0.50 Bold $1.00 Listing Designer* $0.10 Gallery $0.25 Gallery Featured $19.95 List in Two Categories Double the insertion and listing upgrades fees (excluding Scheduled Listings and Home Page Featured). 10-Day Duration The longest listing duration available $0.20 Scheduled Listings $0.10 Buy It Now $0.05 Gift Services $0.25 * No Listing Designer fee for Selling Manager Pro subscribers. Return to top eBay Motors Listing Upgrade Fee Motors Gallery Featured $99.95 for vehicles $24.95 for non-vehicles Highlight $5.00 Bold $4.00 for vehicles $1.00 for non-vehicles Border $4 for Vehicles $3 for Parts & Accessories Listing Designer Not available for vehicles $0.10 for non-vehicles Gallery FREE for vehicles $0.25 non-vehicles Featured Plus! $19.95 List in Two Categories Not Available for Motors Listing Icon $2.00 for vehicles $1.00 for non-vehicles 10-Day Duration The longest listing duration available $5.00 for all vehicle listings Buy It Now $1.00 for all vehicle listings $0.05 for non-vehicles Pay Pal Fees: Open an Account Send Money Free Free Withdraw Funds Free for U.S. bank accounts Fees for international banks Free for U.S. bank accounts Fees for international banks Add funds Free for U.S. bank accounts Fees for international banks Free for U.S. bank accounts Fees for international banks Receive Funds Free Standard Rate: 2.9% + 30¢* Merchant Rate: 2.2% + 30¢* There is a conversion fee for overseas conversion of 1% Total is 3.9% plus 30 cents. Always comes bout 4-5% for me depending on price sold for. I guess you do have some fees and you are adding in a couple pounds for your troubles... Maybe Ebay wasn't the way to go to help collectors? Just a thought. That's more a dealer tool I think but I guess if you are paying 15-20 pounds per autograph, adding say 5 pounds for you would mean 20-25 pounds, add that to (let's assume you had a generic listing fee with Buy it now) 40 cents your total is 22 pence (at 1.8 conversion) you are at 20.22 -25.22 plus your 30 cent pay pal (17P) you are at 20.39-25.39 plus your 3.9 (assuming you are converting funds and paying that extra 1%) is 80 cents (44p) - 99 cents (55p). You are at 20.83 or 25.94 in pounds..... add a pound for toploader? that's 21.83 or 25.94 and I'd round up. One standard 8x10 in a toploader from the UK to the US is? Can someone give a price from recent. Lets say one pound whic is not 22.83-26.94. plus shiiping, No more than 2 pounds at most? I've put 4 68p stamps on which was too much and it was fine. so total 24.83-28.94 in pounds. Let's round up, giving you a small margin for error and you're at 25-29 pounds for an autograph with packing, shipping, fees and whatnot. Based on an exchange rate of 1.80 US dollar per pound, you're talking expensive but better than 60.00 ... 45 US dollars to 52 dollars and 20 cents. Still megabucks for no names..... should be 26.94 not 25.94 (first reference) Hope this helped people here; I know those fees add up! That's why I do generic listings and ask people not to pay Pay Pal. By the way, for sellers, Bid Pay is free. It's the opposite...buyers pay a money order fee and it's sent to the seller (but takes a couple days). Cheapest way to go is money order but international ones can be expensive. And you have to be sure you do it in the money of whatever country is accepting it. Anyway, the exchange rate here is absurd when dealing with the UK and I think that's the major part where the problem is. I don't think you were being absurd too much, it is more of the whole price in the end for a bunch of common people, people who did at least once sign free or who didn't even have more than 2 seconds in the movie with no lines! If you were talking about someone GOOD, then maybe it'd not have seemed so bad! By adding your 5 pounds in for yourself, you're not going to lose money. If it costs a few pence more for shipping or toploader, you are still making a nice little profit per item. On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 09:26:09 +0100, "fon" wrote: I am very sorry to all offended by my post. I have removed the listing from ebay and will not be listing one for a pre order again. I stated in a previous post that I wasn't in it for the money but to help cover my costs of traveling to and from etc. I did post at the end of my previous post asking if someone could give me todds website but no one replied. This is however not an excuse. BDRX did reply to my previous post and said be prepared to lose money at first. I'm not in a position where I can lose money so thats where the $60 came from. I did notice from the ebay listing I made one extra mistake and I added that postage was $5 but when in fact it was included. I based the price on a £20 autograph. Ebay listing fee and total price fee. Paypal fee. Postage to where ever. Toploader. Plus and again this wasn't clear I was going to have the photo of the guest with your photo printed off at a local shop not on my computer so you would have a great COA. I really am sorry that I offended people on here and I certainly didn't intend to do that. I've had 2 nasty e-mails in the last few hours containing words to the effect of 'money grabbing w****r' 'f*****g nob' and would hope this stop. Also in the last hour someone e-mailed asking could I get an autograph for them but my ansewer is no as I probably won't go now. If you feel that I have offended you that much please reply to this post and I won't post on this newsgroup again. I've made a few friends on here and sorry if I've spoiled that. Jason "dahoov2" wrote in message . .. Sorry, but 80.00 for a common signature, a person who was an extra withno lines or who signs free, is ridiculous. That's just my opinion, but if you get that much; good luck! 60.00 is crazy too. But hey, as others say here, I don't have to buy. You weren't really explanatory enough I guess; you sounded like you didn't want to profit, wanted to help collectors, but really even if an autograph cost 20 pounds, that's no more than 35-38 dollars. With Top loader and mail and extra fee, you are making still more profit than most of the dealers! How are autographs sold by dealers anyway? If one gets them free but the value is 20 say in the guides, do people list like that or what they wish they can get? I think most list like that or lower and let the publuc decide. For you though, you'll have to pay for the autographs so they must start at least at that price plus shipping (and no one can demand you send in a toploader; would be hice, but I've shipped and had shipped to me in plastic sleeves with cardboard backing-it's cheaper) On your auction, they'll decide too. Would be curious if anyone goes for it. I guess you should have said you will do it to make money. Not to help collectors. Be forthright. At least if you are, at least people won't accuse you of lying or hiding something. The most they can say is like I did, that you are charging a little bit much.... For me at leat, you seemed misleading. I thought you were gonna be like Todd was and just charge a couple extra bucks for the time and effort. I can't advise you on canceling your auction or changing your prices or anything; that's for you to decide. You should'nt let people here persude you on that. However, you might read some of the Ebay rules so that you don't get into trouble. As you have seen here, some people would seemingly turn you in....................... I'd of emailed you offlist to warn you as a couresy if I'd of seen it. I assumed from your posts, you were never evil intended about anything. So you have nothing to be sorry for; people should not be emailing you off list to harrass you either. Advice is one thing; grief is quite another. On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 04:08:41 +0100, "fon" wrote: This is where the idea come from and he cahrges $80 per signing. http://www.finalfrontiertoys.co.uk/ He sells loads via ebay Jason "fon" wrote in message ... I've been collecting at cons for a few years and TTM a few months. My feedback is 179 because in the last 6 months I've sold my LOTR trading card collection and my Video collection. If you check the items that I've sold none are anything to do with autographs. If I've caused upset then I'm sorry and will remove the ebay auction when I get home from work. I didn't mean to cause anyone any grief. I've had a few nasty e-mails in the last few hours which has been a little upsetting so I'm not going to bother. This was going to be a trial price to see how it went. I didn't want to go to Birminham next week and LOSE money but I can asure you the price would have come down by Collectamania once I had worked out shipped and top loader prices etc. Last off how do I cancel an item on ebay. Jason "dahoov2" wrote in message .. . Well, he seemed to be asking for help in all the previoius posts... I see that he's sold... this is bothering me now. Think I might have been hoodwinked? Have been emailed offlist a lot to help and get advice, so wonder what's up now. So Fon, how long HAVE you been collecting? On 6 Aug 2004 19:40:08 -0500, Autograph Collector wrote: dahoov2 wrote: Both of you are not very nice. I doubt anyone will pay that much for common names such as those. I thought in your original post you said you were not out to get money. These people charge 15-20 pounds at most per sig at this convention. Even with shipping and a small fee, that's a lot of extra money. But then again, I guess if people want to pay, who am I to say. I just think you portrayed yourself different in earlier posts and I wonder if I can trust you now! Also, you appear to be selling one item, to one person. I don't see multiples offered or a limit...Ebay isn't gonna like that! Autograph collector is right... that's skirting Ebay's rules and you can be kicked off... However, the person that posted this is a newbie; you didn't have to go and report him. You could've emailed and told him privately first before posting it publicly.... and let him know. Newbie? They sell all the time on eBay and have a feedback rating of 179. They're no newbie. AC www.starwarsautographcollecting.com http://dahoov2.topcities.com www.starwarsautographcollecting.com http://dahoov2.topcities.com www.starwarsautographcollecting.com http://dahoov2.topcities.com www.starwarsautographcollecting.com http://dahoov2.topcities.com www.starwarsautographcollecting.com http://dahoov2.topcities.com www.starwarsautographcollecting.com http://dahoov2.topcities.com www.starwarsautographcollecting.com http://dahoov2.topcities.com www.starwarsautographcollecting.com http://dahoov2.topcities.com www.starwarsautographcollecting.com http://dahoov2.topcities.com www.starwarsautographcollecting.com http://dahoov2.topcities.com |
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sorry sue didn't mean it like that, Just thought it was pretty high price
thats all. The idea of getting a pre order thing has long gone. Just going to concentrate on TTM. "dahoov2" wrote in message ... You don't need to try to convince me of anything. If you think you can get prices and want to profit...so be it. On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:49:19 +0100, "fon" wrote: Sue check out the final price and its not by a new ebayer "fon" wrote in message ... Sue Don't you think this is a little high for a Dave Prowse http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName= ME RC_VI "fon" wrote in message ... I find that with the Celebration II signed photos only carrie comes up a lot the smaller guests only appear from time to time and you need to catch them cheap while you can. I think the silver logo in the corner is fantastic ans really make the photo that much more special. I wish I could go to CIII but I'm getting married in Cuba next year so all money goes to that. I can't see myself going next weekend unless they are someone special, I want to meet Leslie Schofield as I've not done before and also want Jeremy Bolluch 'flying solo' book as its limited to only 2000 copies I can't see it lasting to long. Just read my local sunday paper and I hear Demi Moore will be here in south wales filming soon, any idea on what shes like in person she'll be with her boyfriend but I can't remember his name. Also just found out that Jennifer Love Hewit was here last month so I'm dissapointed as I've never had an In Person appart from at cons. Jason "dahoov2" wrote in message ... Wow, 5-10? You got a FANTASTIC deal! Those even though way down in price for a while (and I figure they'll go up just a little during CIII) are still holding for more than originally paid. So you did get a great deal. There was one guy making reprints and saying they were 'real' so be aware for that. Those were going about the prices you mentioned. Supposedly, they were putting those holographic logos on there so no one could copy them; and were gonna go after those who did. But as always, people get away with crap. Good luck on Ford; if you don't throw too much at him, I heard he was nice, except I hear that since he was with Flockhart, he's not AS nice. On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 09:41:56 +0100, "fon" wrote: Having worked out the maths it would probably be about the same price to fly out to celebration from here (air fares are getting cheaper by the day) then for me to drive to collectamania (350 miles round trip) stay in a hotel and get all 30 autographs. As yoda my say 'sense it makes not' I'm going harrison ford hunting in a few weeks as he's taking a fancy to my country Wales. He was here last month and is said to have loved it. He's apparently set to by a boat for over here. So hopefully I sense a little holiday coming on in North Wales. Carrie fisher did a private convention in london last year. She was the only guest, and it was something like £20 entrance fee and £35 a signed photo. Limited to one a person and she would not allow photos to be taken of her. I've heard loads of bad reports about Billy Dee and he has canceled Collectamania in the past as has Gary Kurtz. So I'll have to wait and see on that one. I've picked up about 10 celebration II photos so far and most have been between $5 and $10 apart from your carrie fisher. I met Peter at the last collectamania and he didn't even look up, didn't ask if I wanted made out to anybody, so I was a little dissapointed. Jason "dahoov2" wrote in message news Yeah, Carrie charges a lot more these days and Hamill is insane too.. now if you're talking 60-80 for Harrison Ford, lol, we have a deal working ... Now that is one to me that would be more worth it. Every autograph at CII was only 12.00 at the time, but truth? Carrie Fisher's no one would sell for that low if they stood in line. I heard people stood in line over 8 hours and didn't even get the sig...wasted their whole entrance fee (which ty the was was pricy) and didn't get to see anything! And to top it off, she's not a very nice woman. I got in early with the help of someone.... and I was probably in line on only 50 back at most and by the time I got there, they'd changed the amount you could get, the inscriptions you were allowed and she was NASTY. Billy Dee's line was crazy too, you probably had to wait a couple hour for him. He too, wasn't very nice. He grunted and hardly looked up and was bothered to be there. As was Peter Mayhew, but he was sick I think. I expect them to be charging 15-20 at the next event. With the turnout last time, there's no way they'll probably do them that cheap again, but if they do, I'll try to help out if I can. But no way I am doing as many as last time. And no special orders either! Like this thread here and my advice to you, I learned from last time.... Gary Kurtz is a director; so only real enthusiasts will care. I bet a lot of people going will ask who he is. On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 00:52:39 +0100, "fon" wrote: At celebration was it $12 each even for people like carrie fisher. That seemed like a great deal because you could probably buy one of each for less then $500. The celebration photos are very nice as I've started to buy then I even bought a carrie Fisher off you a few months ago which is one of my prized autographs. But we are having 30 Guests here and looking to pay at least double that, something is wrong somewhere. You make an even stronger point when you say most of the small roles come from the UK. Sometimes I find the guest is just sat there most of the day because eveyone has already got your autograph. The was a pretty good guest announced last night that I'm not sure if your aware of and thats Gary Kurtz. He hasn't done much over here so will probably be a £20 man "dahoov2" wrote in message .. . Don't have to convince me... if you want to do this, go ahead. Like I said a bazillion times already; if you think someone will buy go for it. But I sure as hell not pay that much! Moakare's card from Topps isn't getting much. It's plummeted recently ... I've seen several sell in the 20-25 range and suspect, as time goes on, he will be like Warwick Davis, Bulloch and Prowse............. making their living at this and can't even sell ones you bought for $10 later on. Just like some of the ones I had.... no one interested at they're plentiful and a dime a dozen. On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 21:43:40 +0100, "fon" wrote: and another who you guys say is easy to get http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3814832009 again at $80 "fon" wrote in message ... another http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...88&item=382723 5 3 2 3 at $80 "fon" wrote in message ... here check it out for yourself http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...88&item=382744 5 4 2 3 "dahoov2" wrote in message ... Dave Prowse signed here for 20.00 US which is just over 11 pounds for you... weird huh? He flies all the way across the ocean out of his own country and charges LESS?! They sell for 15-25 here usually, but in US dollars... so there's a big difference. A lot cheaper for you to buy here than us to buy there. At Celebration, autographs were 12.00 each US. But they were limited and collectible; so they got more in auctions because 1) they were so cheap and 2) there were a TON of guests (over 40) and so you could collect them all.... and a lot of people wanted to do that. For a while, they were selling from 30-150 each and now you can get them half that depending on who it is you're getting (Fisher and Williams sell higher). Anyway, don't let me or anyone here tell you what you should do. If you want to sell them go ahead. Now you know all the fees involved and can judge better; and maybe some idea of what'll sell and what won't... and of that guy who sold 5, WHAT did he sell? Something very popular and rarer or something common... take that into consideration too. On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 16:45:34 +0100, "fon" wrote: A slighty different subject. What prices do guests tend to charge in the US. Here £15 is pretty standard and £20 is seen more and more. I've even seen Dave Prowse sign for £25 which is about $45. I know we have a high exchange rate but the prices here are going mad. I hear at collectamania there maybe a few £25 ones. You said about bookmarking the page. In the last 2 weeks I've seen him sell about 5. I will be honest and say I was looking at going next week for 1 autograph and thought after seeing his web site that if I could sell a few at a price which I didn't thnk was to bad it would help cover my costs. Not to MAKE money but help my costs. I've seen your posts and understand and probably agree with everything you have said. I didn't think about it enough, I didn't work out the costs fully. I made a mistake and am honest enough to say that. I didn't intend to go out and rip people off. Looking at my ebay listing the way I worded it sucked really and it wasn't fully done well. In October we have 30 starwars guest who will be charging between £15 and £25 even if all 30 charged £15 that makes £450, close to about $800. How much were the charges at Celebration II last year. Jason "dahoov2" wrote in message .. . bookmark that and note there are 17 buy it nows. Keep track and see how many he sells... that's all I have to say. This will be your guide to whether what you are doing is a good idea or not. But one word of advice if I may. If you are doing it to make money and NOT just to help collectors... then be honest. those are prices to make money; not just to help your buddies. That's why some celebs stop signing... they see that like you saw it, get the absurd notion their sigs are worth that much and see dollar signs and never sign again for free... thereby ending the joy of collecting. There is no joy to paying 60.00 for an elf who was on screen two seconds with no lines. At least not for me. I feel all I am doing in lining someone's pockets when outside the little LOTR community, nobody even knows who the hell those guys are! Imagine telling your neighbor who saw the film but does not know the names of the actors and asks you about your autograph. Here's the conversation I hear: (Friend) wow, cool! That's from LOTR? (You) Yeah, I bought it from a guy who got it for me at a convention (Friend) So you didn't meet him? How much did you pay for it if you don't mind my asking? (You) No, I didn't meet him. Paid 60. for it (Friend) that's a lot, but it's from LOTR right? Say, where in the movie was he again? I can't remember (You) he was the guy in the battle scene on the wall ... remember that? He was the fifth guy in the back... you can see his face a little after so and so say.... (friend) (I will leave this to your own imagination; I am sure there's a varying about of explitive and other things to insert here) When prices were 10 or 15 US dollars, it was tolerable. they went to 20 and were getting pricy with shipping. Now, it's just plain RIDICULOUS. The buck stops here. On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 15:46:17 +0100, "fon" wrote: click on this link if you thought I was expensive... http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...ems&userid=fin a l f r o ntieruk&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50 "fon" wrote in message ... Your points are very valued as as you can tell this was going to be my first time. Only 2 things if I may add to what you have said. The first I was going to sent the photo insured which I guess is more then £2 (again only guessing) and secondly like I pointed out in my first post I'm only going for the Jeremy Bulloch signed book so I have to travel close to 250 miles and an entrance fee of £10 plus an absurd car park fee of £8. I am the first to admit that I didn't look into it fully and rushed things a bit but the event is next saturday. Can I please add that if I had got things cheaper then then next one would have been cheaper. It was a first attemp and caused a lot of upset. Jason "dahoov2" wrote in message ... On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 09:36:04 -0400, dahoov2 wrote: Here for reference is Ebays Fees: Starting Price, Opening Value or Reserve Price Insertion Fee $0.01 - $0.99 $0.30 $1.00 - $9.99 $0.35 $10.00 - $24.99 $0.60 $25.00 - $49.99 $1.20 $50.00 - $199.99 $2.40 $200.00 - $499.99 $3.60 $500.00 and up $4.80 Your fee is 35 cents Reserve fees: Reserve Price Reserve Price Auction Fee $0.01 - $49.99 $1.00 $50.00 - $199.99 $2.00 $200.00 and up 1% of Reserve Price (with a maximum of $100.00) Did you have one? Photo fees: Feature Fee First picture FREE! Each additional Picture $0.15 Preview Picture Free Slide Show $0.75 Supersize Image $0.75 Picture Pack $1.00 (a $1.75 value) for up to 6 pictures or $1.50 for Yours was free I believe you only had one Special things (I don't think you had anything -you may have had buy it now, but that's only 5 cents) Listing Upgrade Listing Upgrade Fee Home Page Featured $39.95 (single quantity) or $79.95 (quantity of 2 or more) Featured Plus! $19.95 Highlight $5.00 Border $3.00 Item Subtitle $0.50 Bold $1.00 Listing Designer* $0.10 Gallery $0.25 Gallery Featured $19.95 List in Two Categories Double the insertion and listing upgrades fees (excluding Scheduled Listings and Home Page Featured). 10-Day Duration The longest listing duration available $0.20 Scheduled Listings $0.10 Buy It Now $0.05 Gift Services $0.25 * No Listing Designer fee for Selling Manager Pro subscribers. Return to top eBay Motors Listing Upgrade Fee Motors Gallery Featured $99.95 for vehicles $24.95 for non-vehicles Highlight $5.00 Bold $4.00 for vehicles $1.00 for non-vehicles Border $4 for Vehicles $3 for Parts & Accessories Listing Designer Not available for vehicles $0.10 for non-vehicles Gallery FREE for vehicles $0.25 non-vehicles Featured Plus! $19.95 List in Two Categories Not Available for Motors Listing Icon $2.00 for vehicles $1.00 for non-vehicles 10-Day Duration The longest listing duration available $5.00 for all vehicle listings Buy It Now $1.00 for all vehicle listings $0.05 for non-vehicles Pay Pal Fees: Open an Account Send Money Free Free Withdraw Funds Free for U.S. bank accounts Fees for international banks Free for U.S. bank accounts Fees for international banks Add funds Free for U.S. bank accounts Fees for international banks Free for U.S. bank accounts Fees for international banks Receive Funds Free Standard Rate: 2.9% + 30¢* Merchant Rate: 2.2% + 30¢* There is a conversion fee for overseas conversion of 1% Total is 3.9% plus 30 cents. Always comes bout 4-5% for me depending on price sold for. I guess you do have some fees and you are adding in a couple pounds for your troubles... Maybe Ebay wasn't the way to go to help collectors? Just a thought. That's more a dealer tool I think but I guess if you are paying 15-20 pounds per autograph, adding say 5 pounds for you would mean 20-25 pounds, add that to (let's assume you had a generic listing fee with Buy it now) 40 cents your total is 22 pence (at 1.8 conversion) you are at 20.22 -25.22 plus your 30 cent pay pal (17P) you are at 20.39-25.39 plus your 3.9 (assuming you are converting funds and paying that extra 1%) is 80 cents (44p) - 99 cents (55p). You are at 20.83 or 25.94 in pounds..... add a pound for toploader? that's 21.83 or 25.94 and I'd round up. One standard 8x10 in a toploader from the UK to the US is? Can someone give a price from recent. Lets say one pound whic is not 22.83-26.94. plus shiiping, No more than 2 pounds at most? I've put 4 68p stamps on which was too much and it was fine. so total 24.83-28.94 in pounds. Let's round up, giving you a small margin for error and you're at 25-29 pounds for an autograph with packing, shipping, fees and whatnot. Based on an exchange rate of 1.80 US dollar per pound, you're talking expensive but better than 60.00 ... 45 US dollars to 52 dollars and 20 cents. Still megabucks for no names..... should be 26.94 not 25.94 (first reference) Hope this helped people here; I know those fees add up! That's why I do generic listings and ask people not to pay Pay Pal. By the way, for sellers, Bid Pay is free. It's the opposite...buyers pay a money order fee and it's sent to the seller (but takes a couple days). Cheapest way to go is money order but international ones can be expensive. And you have to be sure you do it in the money of whatever country is accepting it. Anyway, the exchange rate here is absurd when dealing with the UK and I think that's the major part where the problem is. I don't think you were being absurd too much, it is more of the whole price in the end for a bunch of common people, people who did at least once sign free or who didn't even have more than 2 seconds in the movie with no lines! If you were talking about someone GOOD, then maybe it'd not have seemed so bad! By adding your 5 pounds in for yourself, you're not going to lose money. If it costs a few pence more for shipping or toploader, you are still making a nice little profit per item. On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 09:26:09 +0100, "fon" wrote: I am very sorry to all offended by my post. I have removed the listing from ebay and will not be listing one for a pre order again. I stated in a previous post that I wasn't in it for the money but to help cover my costs of traveling to and from etc. I did post at the end of my previous post asking if someone could give me todds website but no one replied. This is however not an excuse. BDRX did reply to my previous post and said be prepared to lose money at first. I'm not in a position where I can lose money so thats where the $60 came from. I did notice from the ebay listing I made one extra mistake and I added that postage was $5 but when in fact it was included. I based the price on a £20 autograph. Ebay listing fee and total price fee. Paypal fee. Postage to where ever. Toploader. Plus and again this wasn't clear I was going to have the photo of the guest with your photo printed off at a local shop not on my computer so you would have a great COA. I really am sorry that I offended people on here and I certainly didn't intend to do that. I've had 2 nasty e-mails in the last few hours containing words to the effect of 'money grabbing w****r' 'f*****g nob' and would hope this stop. Also in the last hour someone e-mailed asking could I get an autograph for them but my ansewer is no as I probably won't go now. If you feel that I have offended you that much please reply to this post and I won't post on this newsgroup again. I've made a few friends on here and sorry if I've spoiled that. Jason "dahoov2" wrote in message . .. Sorry, but 80.00 for a common signature, a person who was an extra withno lines or who signs free, is ridiculous. That's just my opinion, but if you get that much; good luck! 60.00 is crazy too. But hey, as others say here, I don't have to buy. You weren't really explanatory enough I guess; you sounded like you didn't want to profit, wanted to help collectors, but really even if an autograph cost 20 pounds, that's no more than 35-38 dollars. With Top loader and mail and extra fee, you are making still more profit than most of the dealers! How are autographs sold by dealers anyway? If one gets them free but the value is 20 say in the guides, do people list like that or what they wish they can get? I think most list like that or lower and let the publuc decide. For you though, you'll have to pay for the autographs so they must start at least at that price plus shipping (and no one can demand you send in a toploader; would be hice, but I've shipped and had shipped to me in plastic sleeves with cardboard backing-it's cheaper) On your auction, they'll decide too. Would be curious if anyone goes for it. I guess you should have said you will do it to make money. Not to help collectors. Be forthright. At least if you are, at least people won't accuse you of lying or hiding something. The most they can say is like I did, that you are charging a little bit much.... For me at leat, you seemed misleading. I thought you were gonna be like Todd was and just charge a couple extra bucks for the time and effort. I can't advise you on canceling your auction or changing your prices or anything; that's for you to decide. You should'nt let people here persude you on that. However, you might read some of the Ebay rules so that you don't get into trouble. As you have seen here, some people would seemingly turn you in....................... I'd of emailed you offlist to warn you as a couresy if I'd of seen it. I assumed from your posts, you were never evil intended about anything. So you have nothing to be sorry for; people should not be emailing you off list to harrass you either. Advice is one thing; grief is quite another. On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 04:08:41 +0100, "fon" wrote: This is where the idea come from and he cahrges $80 per signing. http://www.finalfrontiertoys.co.uk/ He sells loads via ebay Jason "fon" wrote in message ... I've been collecting at cons for a few years and TTM a few months. My feedback is 179 because in the last 6 months I've sold my LOTR trading card collection and my Video collection. If you check the items that I've sold none are anything to do with autographs. If I've caused upset then I'm sorry and will remove the ebay auction when I get home from work. I didn't mean to cause anyone any grief. I've had a few nasty e-mails in the last few hours which has been a little upsetting so I'm not going to bother. This was going to be a trial price to see how it went. I didn't want to go to Birminham next week and LOSE money but I can asure you the price would have come down by Collectamania once I had worked out shipped and top loader prices etc. Last off how do I cancel an item on ebay. Jason "dahoov2" wrote in message .. . Well, he seemed to be asking for help in all the previoius posts... I see that he's sold... this is bothering me now. Think I might have been hoodwinked? Have been emailed offlist a lot to help and get advice, so wonder what's up now. So Fon, how long HAVE you been collecting? On 6 Aug 2004 19:40:08 -0500, Autograph Collector wrote: dahoov2 wrote: Both of you are not very nice. I doubt anyone will pay that much for common names such as those. I thought in your original post you said you were not out to get money. These people charge 15-20 pounds at most per sig at this convention. Even with shipping and a small fee, that's a lot of extra money. But then again, I guess if people want to pay, who am I to say. I just think you portrayed yourself different in earlier posts and I wonder if I can trust you now! Also, you appear to be selling one item, to one person. I don't see multiples offered or a limit...Ebay isn't gonna like that! Autograph collector is right... that's skirting Ebay's rules and you can be kicked off... However, the person that posted this is a newbie; you didn't have to go and report him. You could've emailed and told him privately first before posting it publicly.... and let him know. Newbie? 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long for this thread. On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 18:53:43 +0100, "fon" wrote: sorry sue didn't mean it like that, Just thought it was pretty high price thats all. The idea of getting a pre order thing has long gone. Just going to concentrate on TTM. "dahoov2" wrote in message .. . You don't need to try to convince me of anything. If you think you can get prices and want to profit...so be it. On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:49:19 +0100, "fon" wrote: Sue check out the final price and its not by a new ebayer "fon" wrote in message ... Sue Don't you think this is a little high for a Dave Prowse http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName= ME RC_VI "fon" wrote in message ... I find that with the Celebration II signed photos only carrie comes up a lot the smaller guests only appear from time to time and you need to catch them cheap while you can. I think the silver logo in the corner is fantastic ans really make the photo that much more special. I wish I could go to CIII but I'm getting married in Cuba next year so all money goes to that. I can't see myself going next weekend unless they are someone special, I want to meet Leslie Schofield as I've not done before and also want Jeremy Bolluch 'flying solo' book as its limited to only 2000 copies I can't see it lasting to long. Just read my local sunday paper and I hear Demi Moore will be here in south wales filming soon, any idea on what shes like in person she'll be with her boyfriend but I can't remember his name. Also just found out that Jennifer Love Hewit was here last month so I'm dissapointed as I've never had an In Person appart from at cons. Jason "dahoov2" wrote in message ... Wow, 5-10? You got a FANTASTIC deal! Those even though way down in price for a while (and I figure they'll go up just a little during CIII) are still holding for more than originally paid. So you did get a great deal. There was one guy making reprints and saying they were 'real' so be aware for that. Those were going about the prices you mentioned. Supposedly, they were putting those holographic logos on there so no one could copy them; and were gonna go after those who did. But as always, people get away with crap. Good luck on Ford; if you don't throw too much at him, I heard he was nice, except I hear that since he was with Flockhart, he's not AS nice. On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 09:41:56 +0100, "fon" wrote: Having worked out the maths it would probably be about the same price to fly out to celebration from here (air fares are getting cheaper by the day) then for me to drive to collectamania (350 miles round trip) stay in a hotel and get all 30 autographs. As yoda my say 'sense it makes not' I'm going harrison ford hunting in a few weeks as he's taking a fancy to my country Wales. He was here last month and is said to have loved it. He's apparently set to by a boat for over here. So hopefully I sense a little holiday coming on in North Wales. Carrie fisher did a private convention in london last year. She was the only guest, and it was something like £20 entrance fee and £35 a signed photo. Limited to one a person and she would not allow photos to be taken of her. I've heard loads of bad reports about Billy Dee and he has canceled Collectamania in the past as has Gary Kurtz. So I'll have to wait and see on that one. I've picked up about 10 celebration II photos so far and most have been between $5 and $10 apart from your carrie fisher. I met Peter at the last collectamania and he didn't even look up, didn't ask if I wanted made out to anybody, so I was a little dissapointed. Jason "dahoov2" wrote in message news Yeah, Carrie charges a lot more these days and Hamill is insane too.. now if you're talking 60-80 for Harrison Ford, lol, we have a deal working ... Now that is one to me that would be more worth it. Every autograph at CII was only 12.00 at the time, but truth? Carrie Fisher's no one would sell for that low if they stood in line. I heard people stood in line over 8 hours and didn't even get the sig...wasted their whole entrance fee (which ty the was was pricy) and didn't get to see anything! And to top it off, she's not a very nice woman. I got in early with the help of someone.... and I was probably in line on only 50 back at most and by the time I got there, they'd changed the amount you could get, the inscriptions you were allowed and she was NASTY. Billy Dee's line was crazy too, you probably had to wait a couple hour for him. He too, wasn't very nice. He grunted and hardly looked up and was bothered to be there. As was Peter Mayhew, but he was sick I think. I expect them to be charging 15-20 at the next event. With the turnout last time, there's no way they'll probably do them that cheap again, but if they do, I'll try to help out if I can. But no way I am doing as many as last time. And no special orders either! Like this thread here and my advice to you, I learned from last time.... Gary Kurtz is a director; so only real enthusiasts will care. I bet a lot of people going will ask who he is. On Sun, 8 Aug 2004 00:52:39 +0100, "fon" wrote: At celebration was it $12 each even for people like carrie fisher. That seemed like a great deal because you could probably buy one of each for less then $500. The celebration photos are very nice as I've started to buy then I even bought a carrie Fisher off you a few months ago which is one of my prized autographs. But we are having 30 Guests here and looking to pay at least double that, something is wrong somewhere. You make an even stronger point when you say most of the small roles come from the UK. Sometimes I find the guest is just sat there most of the day because eveyone has already got your autograph. The was a pretty good guest announced last night that I'm not sure if your aware of and thats Gary Kurtz. He hasn't done much over here so will probably be a £20 man "dahoov2" wrote in message .. . Don't have to convince me... if you want to do this, go ahead. Like I said a bazillion times already; if you think someone will buy go for it. But I sure as hell not pay that much! Moakare's card from Topps isn't getting much. It's plummeted recently ... I've seen several sell in the 20-25 range and suspect, as time goes on, he will be like Warwick Davis, Bulloch and Prowse............. making their living at this and can't even sell ones you bought for $10 later on. Just like some of the ones I had.... no one interested at they're plentiful and a dime a dozen. On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 21:43:40 +0100, "fon" wrote: and another who you guys say is easy to get http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3814832009 again at $80 "fon" wrote in message ... another http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...88&item=382723 5 3 2 3 at $80 "fon" wrote in message ... here check it out for yourself http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...88&item=382744 5 4 2 3 "dahoov2" wrote in message ... Dave Prowse signed here for 20.00 US which is just over 11 pounds for you... weird huh? He flies all the way across the ocean out of his own country and charges LESS?! They sell for 15-25 here usually, but in US dollars... so there's a big difference. A lot cheaper for you to buy here than us to buy there. At Celebration, autographs were 12.00 each US. But they were limited and collectible; so they got more in auctions because 1) they were so cheap and 2) there were a TON of guests (over 40) and so you could collect them all.... and a lot of people wanted to do that. For a while, they were selling from 30-150 each and now you can get them half that depending on who it is you're getting (Fisher and Williams sell higher). Anyway, don't let me or anyone here tell you what you should do. If you want to sell them go ahead. Now you know all the fees involved and can judge better; and maybe some idea of what'll sell and what won't... and of that guy who sold 5, WHAT did he sell? Something very popular and rarer or something common... take that into consideration too. On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 16:45:34 +0100, "fon" wrote: A slighty different subject. What prices do guests tend to charge in the US. Here £15 is pretty standard and £20 is seen more and more. I've even seen Dave Prowse sign for £25 which is about $45. I know we have a high exchange rate but the prices here are going mad. I hear at collectamania there maybe a few £25 ones. You said about bookmarking the page. In the last 2 weeks I've seen him sell about 5. I will be honest and say I was looking at going next week for 1 autograph and thought after seeing his web site that if I could sell a few at a price which I didn't thnk was to bad it would help cover my costs. Not to MAKE money but help my costs. I've seen your posts and understand and probably agree with everything you have said. I didn't think about it enough, I didn't work out the costs fully. I made a mistake and am honest enough to say that. I didn't intend to go out and rip people off. Looking at my ebay listing the way I worded it sucked really and it wasn't fully done well. In October we have 30 starwars guest who will be charging between £15 and £25 even if all 30 charged £15 that makes £450, close to about $800. How much were the charges at Celebration II last year. Jason "dahoov2" wrote in message .. . bookmark that and note there are 17 buy it nows. Keep track and see how many he sells... that's all I have to say. This will be your guide to whether what you are doing is a good idea or not. But one word of advice if I may. If you are doing it to make money and NOT just to help collectors... then be honest. those are prices to make money; not just to help your buddies. That's why some celebs stop signing... they see that like you saw it, get the absurd notion their sigs are worth that much and see dollar signs and never sign again for free... thereby ending the joy of collecting. There is no joy to paying 60.00 for an elf who was on screen two seconds with no lines. At least not for me. I feel all I am doing in lining someone's pockets when outside the little LOTR community, nobody even knows who the hell those guys are! Imagine telling your neighbor who saw the film but does not know the names of the actors and asks you about your autograph. Here's the conversation I hear: (Friend) wow, cool! That's from LOTR? (You) Yeah, I bought it from a guy who got it for me at a convention (Friend) So you didn't meet him? How much did you pay for it if you don't mind my asking? (You) No, I didn't meet him. Paid 60. for it (Friend) that's a lot, but it's from LOTR right? Say, where in the movie was he again? I can't remember (You) he was the guy in the battle scene on the wall ... remember that? He was the fifth guy in the back... you can see his face a little after so and so say.... (friend) (I will leave this to your own imagination; I am sure there's a varying about of explitive and other things to insert here) When prices were 10 or 15 US dollars, it was tolerable. they went to 20 and were getting pricy with shipping. Now, it's just plain RIDICULOUS. The buck stops here. On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 15:46:17 +0100, "fon" wrote: click on this link if you thought I was expensive... http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...ems&userid=fin a l f r o ntieruk&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50 "fon" wrote in message ... Your points are very valued as as you can tell this was going to be my first time. Only 2 things if I may add to what you have said. The first I was going to sent the photo insured which I guess is more then £2 (again only guessing) and secondly like I pointed out in my first post I'm only going for the Jeremy Bulloch signed book so I have to travel close to 250 miles and an entrance fee of £10 plus an absurd car park fee of £8. I am the first to admit that I didn't look into it fully and rushed things a bit but the event is next saturday. Can I please add that if I had got things cheaper then then next one would have been cheaper. It was a first attemp and caused a lot of upset. Jason "dahoov2" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 09:36:04 -0400, dahoov2 wrote: Here for reference is Ebays Fees: Starting Price, Opening Value or Reserve Price Insertion Fee $0.01 - $0.99 $0.30 $1.00 - $9.99 $0.35 $10.00 - $24.99 $0.60 $25.00 - $49.99 $1.20 $50.00 - $199.99 $2.40 $200.00 - $499.99 $3.60 $500.00 and up $4.80 Your fee is 35 cents Reserve fees: Reserve Price Reserve Price Auction Fee $0.01 - $49.99 $1.00 $50.00 - $199.99 $2.00 $200.00 and up 1% of Reserve Price (with a maximum of $100.00) Did you have one? Photo fees: Feature Fee First picture FREE! Each additional Picture $0.15 Preview Picture Free Slide Show $0.75 Supersize Image $0.75 Picture Pack $1.00 (a $1.75 value) for up to 6 pictures or $1.50 for Yours was free I believe you only had one Special things (I don't think you had anything -you may have had buy it now, but that's only 5 cents) Listing Upgrade Listing Upgrade Fee Home Page Featured $39.95 (single quantity) or $79.95 (quantity of 2 or more) Featured Plus! $19.95 Highlight $5.00 Border $3.00 Item Subtitle $0.50 Bold $1.00 Listing Designer* $0.10 Gallery $0.25 Gallery Featured $19.95 List in Two Categories Double the insertion and listing upgrades fees (excluding Scheduled Listings and Home Page Featured). 10-Day Duration The longest listing duration available $0.20 Scheduled Listings $0.10 Buy It Now $0.05 Gift Services $0.25 * No Listing Designer fee for Selling Manager Pro subscribers. Return to top eBay Motors Listing Upgrade Fee Motors Gallery Featured $99.95 for vehicles $24.95 for non-vehicles Highlight $5.00 Bold $4.00 for vehicles $1.00 for non-vehicles Border $4 for Vehicles $3 for Parts & Accessories Listing Designer Not available for vehicles $0.10 for non-vehicles Gallery FREE for vehicles $0.25 non-vehicles Featured Plus! $19.95 List in Two Categories Not Available for Motors Listing Icon $2.00 for vehicles $1.00 for non-vehicles 10-Day Duration The longest listing duration available $5.00 for all vehicle listings Buy It Now $1.00 for all vehicle listings $0.05 for non-vehicles Pay Pal Fees: Open an Account Send Money Free Free Withdraw Funds Free for U.S. bank accounts Fees for international banks Free for U.S. bank accounts Fees for international banks Add funds Free for U.S. bank accounts Fees for international banks Free for U.S. bank accounts Fees for international banks Receive Funds Free Standard Rate: 2.9% + 30¢* Merchant Rate: 2.2% + 30¢* There is a conversion fee for overseas conversion of 1% Total is 3.9% plus 30 cents. Always comes bout 4-5% for me depending on price sold for. I guess you do have some fees and you are adding in a couple pounds for your troubles... Maybe Ebay wasn't the way to go to help collectors? Just a thought. That's more a dealer tool I think but I guess if you are paying 15-20 pounds per autograph, adding say 5 pounds for you would mean 20-25 pounds, add that to (let's assume you had a generic listing fee with Buy it now) 40 cents your total is 22 pence (at 1.8 conversion) you are at 20.22 -25.22 plus your 30 cent pay pal (17P) you are at 20.39-25.39 plus your 3.9 (assuming you are converting funds and paying that extra 1%) is 80 cents (44p) - 99 cents (55p). You are at 20.83 or 25.94 in pounds..... add a pound for toploader? that's 21.83 or 25.94 and I'd round up. One standard 8x10 in a toploader from the UK to the US is? Can someone give a price from recent. Lets say one pound whic is not 22.83-26.94. plus shiiping, No more than 2 pounds at most? I've put 4 68p stamps on which was too much and it was fine. so total 24.83-28.94 in pounds. Let's round up, giving you a small margin for error and you're at 25-29 pounds for an autograph with packing, shipping, fees and whatnot. Based on an exchange rate of 1.80 US dollar per pound, you're talking expensive but better than 60.00 ... 45 US dollars to 52 dollars and 20 cents. Still megabucks for no names..... should be 26.94 not 25.94 (first reference) Hope this helped people here; I know those fees add up! That's why I do generic listings and ask people not to pay Pay Pal. By the way, for sellers, Bid Pay is free. It's the opposite...buyers pay a money order fee and it's sent to the seller (but takes a couple days). Cheapest way to go is money order but international ones can be expensive. And you have to be sure you do it in the money of whatever country is accepting it. Anyway, the exchange rate here is absurd when dealing with the UK and I think that's the major part where the problem is. I don't think you were being absurd too much, it is more of the whole price in the end for a bunch of common people, people who did at least once sign free or who didn't even have more than 2 seconds in the movie with no lines! If you were talking about someone GOOD, then maybe it'd not have seemed so bad! By adding your 5 pounds in for yourself, you're not going to lose money. If it costs a few pence more for shipping or toploader, you are still making a nice little profit per item. On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 09:26:09 +0100, "fon" wrote: I am very sorry to all offended by my post. I have removed the listing from ebay and will not be listing one for a pre order again. I stated in a previous post that I wasn't in it for the money but to help cover my costs of traveling to and from etc. I did post at the end of my previous post asking if someone could give me todds website but no one replied. This is however not an excuse. BDRX did reply to my previous post and said be prepared to lose money at first. I'm not in a position where I can lose money so thats where the $60 came from. I did notice from the ebay listing I made one extra mistake and I added that postage was $5 but when in fact it was included. I based the price on a £20 autograph. Ebay listing fee and total price fee. Paypal fee. Postage to where ever. Toploader. Plus and again this wasn't clear I was going to have the photo of the guest with your photo printed off at a local shop not on my computer so you would have a great COA. I really am sorry that I offended people on here and I certainly didn't intend to do that. I've had 2 nasty e-mails in the last few hours containing words to the effect of 'money grabbing w****r' 'f*****g nob' and would hope this stop. Also in the last hour someone e-mailed asking could I get an autograph for them but my ansewer is no as I probably won't go now. If you feel that I have offended you that much please reply to this post and I won't post on this newsgroup again. I've made a few friends on here and sorry if I've spoiled that. Jason "dahoov2" wrote in message . .. Sorry, but 80.00 for a common signature, a person who was an extra withno lines or who signs free, is ridiculous. That's just my opinion, but if you get that much; good luck! 60.00 is crazy too. But hey, as others say here, I don't have to buy. You weren't really explanatory enough I guess; you sounded like you didn't want to profit, wanted to help collectors, but really even if an autograph cost 20 pounds, that's no more than 35-38 dollars. With Top loader and mail and extra fee, you are making still more profit than most of the dealers! How are autographs sold by dealers anyway? If one gets them free but the value is 20 say in the guides, do people list like that or what they wish they can get? I think most list like that or lower and let the publuc decide. For you though, you'll have to pay for the autographs so they must start at least at that price plus shipping (and no one can demand you send in a toploader; would be hice, but I've shipped and had shipped to me in plastic sleeves with cardboard backing-it's cheaper) On your auction, they'll decide too. Would be curious if anyone goes for it. I guess you should have said you will do it to make money. Not to help collectors. Be forthright. At least if you are, at least people won't accuse you of lying or hiding something. The most they can say is like I did, that you are charging a little bit much.... For me at leat, you seemed misleading. I thought you were gonna be like Todd was and just charge a couple extra bucks for the time and effort. I can't advise you on canceling your auction or changing your prices or anything; that's for you to decide. You should'nt let people here persude you on that. However, you might read some of the Ebay rules so that you don't get into trouble. As you have seen here, some people would seemingly turn you in....................... I'd of emailed you offlist to warn you as a couresy if I'd of seen it. I assumed from your posts, you were never evil intended about anything. So you have nothing to be sorry for; people should not be emailing you off list to harrass you either. Advice is one thing; grief is quite another. On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 04:08:41 +0100, "fon" wrote: This is where the idea come from and he cahrges $80 per signing. http://www.finalfrontiertoys.co.uk/ He sells loads via ebay Jason "fon" wrote in message ... I've been collecting at cons for a few years and TTM a few months. My feedback is 179 because in the last 6 months I've sold my LOTR trading card collection and my Video collection. If you check the items that I've sold none are anything to do with autographs. If I've caused upset then I'm sorry and will remove the ebay auction when I get home from work. I didn't mean to cause anyone any grief. I've had a few nasty e-mails in the last few hours which has been a little upsetting so I'm not going to bother. This was going to be a trial price to see how it went. I didn't want to go to Birminham next week and LOSE money but I can asure you the price would have come down by Collectamania once I had worked out shipped and top loader prices etc. Last off how do I cancel an item on ebay. Jason "dahoov2" wrote in message .. . Well, he seemed to be asking for help in all the previoius posts... I see that he's sold... this is bothering me now. Think I might have been hoodwinked? Have been emailed offlist a lot to help and get advice, so wonder what's up now. So Fon, how long HAVE you been collecting? On 6 Aug 2004 19:40:08 -0500, Autograph Collector wrote: dahoov2 wrote: Both of you are not very nice. I doubt anyone will pay that much for common names such as those. I thought in your original post you said you were not out to get money. These people charge 15-20 pounds at most per sig at this convention. Even with shipping and a small fee, that's a lot of extra money. But then again, I guess if people want to pay, who am I to say. I just think you portrayed yourself different in earlier posts and I wonder if I can trust you now! Also, you appear to be selling one item, to one person. I don't see multiples offered or a limit...Ebay isn't gonna like that! Autograph collector is right... that's skirting Ebay's rules and you can be kicked off... However, the person that posted this is a newbie; you didn't have to go and report him. You could've emailed and told him privately first before posting it publicly.... and let him know. Newbie? They sell all the time on eBay and have a feedback rating of 179. They're no newbie. AC www.starwarsautographcollecting.com http://dahoov2.topcities.com www.starwarsautographcollecting.com http://dahoov2.topcities.com www.starwarsautographcollecting.com http://dahoov2.topcities.com www.starwarsautographcollecting.com http://dahoov2.topcities.com www.starwarsautographcollecting.com http://dahoov2.topcities.com www.starwarsautographcollecting.com http://dahoov2.topcities.com www.starwarsautographcollecting.com http://dahoov2.topcities.com www.starwarsautographcollecting.com http://dahoov2.topcities.com www.starwarsautographcollecting.com http://dahoov2.topcities.com www.starwarsautographcollecting.com http://dahoov2.topcities.com www.starwarsautographcollecting.com http://dahoov2.topcities.com |
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No need to apologize; just think it's time for the subject to end; TOO
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Who is Sue to rule that a thread needs to end? Who died and made her God?
This is not her private news group, she does not make the rules. I died and made her god! It's her opinion and if you don't like it, tough! GET OVER IT!!! Otherwise, discuss it in a civil manner. |
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Everyone needs to lighten up and relax. The thread was basicly Sue and
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I just thought the thread was between me and one person and we didn't
need to bother people with it; plus, it was starting to get redundant.... if he wants to continue, we can do so in private without bothering people here......... if someone wanted to continue the thread, they could; I can't stop them and would not want to. I helped as much as I can, and it was time for me to stop. On 12 Aug 2004 05:53:55 -0700, (Bdrx) wrote: Everyone needs to lighten up and relax. The thread was basicly Sue and Jason with a few of us adding info. If she wants to end a thread with him, why would any of you care. Chill out and lets try and have some fun here. www.starwarsautographcollecting.com http://dahoov2.topcities.com |
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If only you knew I WANTED to stop posting because I am basically tired
of collecting, but because of you, I will just keep on here. YOU keep me posting. You do it on purpose actually because you like to start trouble. This is obvious to the group I think. You never say anything helpful, you harrass me and others on and off the group and you are just a troll. A troll which will have to come face me in person to rid yourself of me; I'll never give you the satisfaction of leaving or changing my personality to suit you. So keep on tuickin' on. More power to you; waste your time and keep racking up those goodie points that will someday get you into the pearly gates....or NOT On 11 Aug 2004 23:57:11 GMT, (Isuamlmbf) wrote: No need to apologize; just think it's time for the subject to end; TOO long for this thread. Who is Sue to rule that a thread needs to end? Who died and made her God? This is not her private news group, she does not make the rules. www.starwarsautographcollecting.com http://dahoov2.topcities.com |
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Who is Sue to rule that a thread needs to end? Who died and made her God? This is not her private news group, she does not make the rules. You said you would NEVER post here again!? Why do you keep posting? |
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