1867 Shanghai One Tael

A friend of mine recently acquired this coin as part of a collection.
If anyone can offer any information about it or its authenticity I
would appreciate it.

It can be seen at: http://members.cox.net/mmc8652/coins/1867_one_tael.html

Thanks

Sorry, but it is a modern fake made for tourists in Hong Kong.
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A friend of mine recently acquired this coin as part of a collection.
If anyone can offer any information about it or its authenticity I
would appreciate it.

It can be seen at:
http://members.cox.net/mmc8652/coins/1867_one_tael.html

Thanks

Thanks, I appreciate the assistance.


On Jul 26, 8:05 am, "Ukraina Dvi" wrote:
Sorry, but it is a modern fake made for tourists in Hong Kong."MMC8652" wrote in message

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A friend of mine recently acquired this coin as part of a collection.
If anyone can offer any information about it or its authenticity I
would appreciate it.

It can be seen at:
http://members.cox.net/mmc8652/coins/1867_one_tael.html

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On Jul 25, 6:00 pm, MMC8652 wrote:
A friend of mine recently acquired this coin as part of a collection.
If anyone can offer any information about it or its authenticity I
would appreciate it.

It can be seen at: http://members.cox.net/mmc8652/coins/1867_one_tael.html

How heavy is the coin?
This is certainly no official coin.
But if it is silver, it could be privately minted silver coin. The
Qing government did not mint silver coin until years later. Mexican
silver coins and other foreign coins were widely used.


Thanks

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On Jul 25, 6:00 pm, MMC8652 wrote:
A friend of mine recently acquired this coin as part of a collection.
If anyone can offer any information about it or its authenticity I
would appreciate it.

It can be seen at:
http://members.cox.net/mmc8652/coins/1867_one_tael.html

How heavy is the coin?
This is certainly no official coin.

Do you have a copy of the 19th century Krause catalog at hand?

But if it is silver, it could be privately minted silver coin. The
Qing government did not mint silver coin until years later. Mexican
silver coins and other foreign coins were widely used.

It's (presumably) a copy of a pattern coin. My K&M catalog says:

"The 1867 Tael and 2 Mace coins of "Shanghai Tael" were minted at the Hong
Kong mint as proposed trade coins for China. The Chinese expressed no
interest in any form of struck coinage and the scheme was dropped."

It documents the coin as KM# Pn2, silver, with no mintage number and no
weight listed. It also notes "Superior Goodman sale 5-95 choice brilliant
proof realized, $80,500." I'm surprised more people didn't comment on this
one; I think it's a great looking coin, and I'd love to have even a
counterfeit in my collection. There's an idea for a thread...is it legal to
collect foreign counterfeits? Hmmmm. ;

On Jul 27, 12:15 pm, " wrote:
On Jul 25, 6:00 pm, MMC8652 wrote:

A friend of mine recently acquired this coin as part of a collection.
If anyone can offer any information about it or its authenticity I
would appreciate it.

It can be seen at: http://members.cox.net/mmc8652/coins/1867_one_tael.html

How heavy is the coin?
This is certainly no official coin.
But if it is silver, it could be privately minted silver coin. The
Qing government did not mint silver coin until years later. Mexican
silver coins and other foreign coins were widely used.




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I dont believe it has been weighed. I have only seen the coin once,
but it had the feel of a silver dollar as well as a similar patina. I
will ask the owner if he has access to a scale.

Thanks

On Jul 27, 10:00 pm, "Honus" . wrote:
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oups.com... On Jul 25, 6:00 pm, MMC8652 wrote:
A friend of mine recently acquired this coin as part of a collection.
If anyone can offer any information about it or its authenticity I
would appreciate it.

It can be seen at:

http://members.cox.net/mmc8652/coins/1867_one_tael.html



How heavy is the coin?
This is certainly no official coin.

Do you have a copy of the 19th century Krause catalog at hand?

But if it is silver, it could be privately minted silver coin. The
Qing government did not mint silver coin until years later. Mexican
silver coins and other foreign coins were widely used.

It's (presumably) a copy of a pattern coin. My K&M catalog says:

"The 1867 Tael and 2 Mace coins of "Shanghai Tael" were minted at the Hong
Kong mint as proposed trade coins for China. The Chinese expressed no
interest in any form of struck coinage and the scheme was dropped."

It documents the coin as KM# Pn2, silver, with no mintage number and no
weight listed. It also notes "Superior Goodman sale 5-95 choice brilliant
proof realized, $80,500." I'm surprised more people didn't comment on this
one; I think it's a great looking coin, and I'd love to have even a
counterfeit in my collection. There's an idea for a thread...is it legal to
collect foreign counterfeits? Hmmmm. ;

It is a great looking coin. It has a lot of detail that is hard to see
without magnification. The owner says it is not listed in the new
version of the catalog, but he did find it in an older library copy. I
do not know much about coin collecting, but my friend is not a
computer user so I agreed to help him with some research. This forum
seemed like a good place to start.

Thanks