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Advice for buying wheat pennies on Ebay?
"Bobbo" wrote in message oups.com... There goes Hinz, the living stool sample, refusing to admit he doesn't know what the **** "flat rate" really means. What a loser! He lives in an alternate universe. Apparently just because I went to Sydney for the weekend that makes me a "nym shifter" in his world. Never mind that he did not have me killfiled to begin with. And never mind that he is well aware I match my email address to my current location. All he has to do is killfile on PC which never changes. And on top of that - why should I care? I don't recall any rule stating you must always keep the same name and email when posting to usenet. I really don't know how else to explain what the term "flat rate" means. Apparently pointing out that there is a box that says flat rate on it is "playing word games". |
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Advice for buying wheat pennies on Ebay?
On 6 Apr 2007 20:46:39 -0700, "Bobbo" wrote:
A vist to the USPS site will disabuse you of your notion of a specific box that is flat rate for a pound or less. There just ain't no such beast. You take one of the small "video" boxes and fill it full of rolls of coins and your will have to pay a rate based on distance/weight. Unless you slip the video box into one of those "flat rate" envelopes... It does fit, BTW. Happy to help. -- Observer |
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Advice for buying wheat pennies on Ebay?
On Sat, 07 Apr 2007 15:06:27 -0400, Tony Cooper
wrote: You are inordinately obtuse or else just stupid. There is no special box for Priority Flat Rate 1 lb or less. It doesn't exist. If you have proof of its existance prove it. Fact is ANY package sent weighing less than a pound, regardless of whether it uses a USPS box or not will ship for the base PM rate. There are 2 official "Flat Rate" Priority Mail boxes in which you can ship up to 70 lbs anywhere in the USA for the same rate. Ahhh...you've introduced "special" into the thread. Special box. Look...the PO offers the two "video boxes" for free. Nice little boxes that are great for shipping small orders. They come flat, fold to make a nice box, work well for shipping slabbed coins, don't require tape (though I add a strip of tape to ensure a seal), and don't require weighing or knowing the Zip Code to ship a small batch of coins to anywhere in the US. They hold the coins and sufficient packing material. I don't sell rolls, so all of *my* orders ship for the flat rate of $4.05. No hunting for the right sized box, no buying boxes, no cutting down larger boxes, no storage bulk. Never get my scale out; never look at the Zip Code. Boxes, in my opinion, are safer for shipment of a slab than a padded envelope. All my slabbed coins are in the safety deposit box, but I have 18 US Gold (mixed $1.00, $2.50, $5.00 and $10.00)in plastic flips that I'm packing up to send to NGC Monday. Without packing material, these 18 coins in the box weigh 9.1 oz; well under a pound. I wouldn't ship 18 by Priority Mail in one box, though. I'd use Registered Mail, and you can't use a PM box for Registered Mail.* So, that's a flat rate of $4.05 (excluding extras like insurance or signature) for *my* needs. Your argument seems to be that (a) the box does not have "Flat Rate" imprinted on it by the Post Office (which makes it "special" to you), and (b) the rate varies once over the one pound bracket. It seems to give you - and some others here - dyspepsia and hives to see the box described as a "flat rate" box. It doesn't bother me because I am neither so "obtuse" nor so "stupid" that I can't think that a standard rate that applies to a common shipping bracket to all US postal destinations is a flat rate for that bracket. I guess I'm thinking outside of the box. *Not supposed to, anyway. I tried it once, and even with the box fully taped-over the clerk knew it was PM box and refused it. Maybe I just got a surly clerk. Tony, the existence of 'brackets' at all negates the concept of flat rate. Do you consider the 39 cent stamped envelopes sold by the post office to be 'flat rate' in the one ounce and under bracket just because you only use it for weights of one ounce or less? If so, everything the post office offers is flat rate; because everything EXCEPT FOR THE 2 'OFFICIAL' FLAT RATE BOXES AND ONE FLAT RATE ENVELOPE has a rate determined by the bracket that the weight falls into. 1st class envelopes: 1 oz and under - 39 cents priority mail packages: 1 lb and under - $4.05 Sorry, but flat rate just doesn't mean flat rate within a certain bracket, but flat rate throughout its useful range. Reclining Buddha The Original Couch Potato! |
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Advice for buying wheat pennies on Ebay?
On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:28:32 -0400, Reclining Buddha wrote:
On Sat, 07 Apr 2007 15:06:27 -0400, Tony Cooper wrote: Look...the PO offers the two "video boxes" for free. Nice little boxes that are great for shipping small orders. They come flat, fold to make a nice box, work well for shipping slabbed coins, don't require tape (though I add a strip of tape to ensure a seal), and don't require weighing or knowing the Zip Code to ship a small batch of coins to anywhere in the US. They hold the coins and sufficient packing material. I don't sell rolls, so all of *my* orders ship for the flat rate of $4.05. (snip) So, that's a flat rate of $4.05 (excluding extras like insurance or signature) for *my* needs. Tony, the existence of 'brackets' at all negates the concept of flat rate. Sorry, but flat rate just doesn't mean flat rate within a certain bracket, but flat rate throughout its useful range. Take it up with USPS then - the flat rate boxes aren't for use over 70 pounds. |
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Advice for buying wheat pennies on Ebay?
On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:28:32 -0400, Reclining Buddha wrote:
Sorry, but flat rate just doesn't mean flat rate within a certain bracket, but flat rate throughout its useful range. You have brightened my day considerably. The thought that there is someone out there who thinks that a bracket involving weight is somehow different from a range involving weight indicates that there can be a source of amusement where none is expected. -- Tony Cooper Orlando, FL |
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On 20 Apr 2007 17:52:31 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote:
On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:28:32 -0400, Reclining Buddha wrote: On Sat, 07 Apr 2007 15:06:27 -0400, Tony Cooper wrote: Look...the PO offers the two "video boxes" for free. Nice little boxes that are great for shipping small orders. They come flat, fold to make a nice box, work well for shipping slabbed coins, don't require tape (though I add a strip of tape to ensure a seal), and don't require weighing or knowing the Zip Code to ship a small batch of coins to anywhere in the US. They hold the coins and sufficient packing material. I don't sell rolls, so all of *my* orders ship for the flat rate of $4.05. (snip) So, that's a flat rate of $4.05 (excluding extras like insurance or signature) for *my* needs. Tony, the existence of 'brackets' at all negates the concept of flat rate. Sorry, but flat rate just doesn't mean flat rate within a certain bracket, but flat rate throughout its useful range. Take it up with USPS then - the flat rate boxes aren't for use over 70 pounds. Dave, no postal product is for use over 70 pounds - the postal workers union strictly forbids the mailing of ANY item over 70 pounds, regardless of size, shape, or method of delivery. No 1st class, second class, bulk rate, priority, express, parcel post, or any other method you can think of. If it is over 70 pounds, you have to find another method of shipping! The official flat rate boxes are $8.10 for the entire possible range of shipping weights, delivered anywhere within the United States, Is this really that hard to understand? It's not semantics - It's how the term 'flat rate' is defined. The only boxes that AREN'T $4.05 for one pound and under, are the REAL flat rate boxes, which cost $8.10 to ship. If you ship one pound or less in priority mail box # 0-1097 that measures 11.25" by 14" by 2.25", the fee is $4.10! The same is true for ALL of the regular, NON-FLAT RATE boxes provided by the post office. By your's and Tony's definition of flat rate, they are ALL flat rate (in brackets). Take a look at USPS.com if you don't believe me! Reclining Buddha The Original Couch Potato! |
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Advice for buying wheat pennies on Ebay?
On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 16:03:31 -0400, Reclining Buddha wrote:
On 20 Apr 2007 17:52:31 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote: Take it up with USPS then - the flat rate boxes aren't for use over 70 pounds. Dave, no postal product is for use over 70 pounds - the postal workers union strictly forbids the mailing of ANY item over 70 pounds, Right. The "flat rate" box is another example of "up to a certain weight". Just like the video boxes are flat rate up to a certain weight. The official flat rate boxes are $8.10 for the entire possible range of shipping weights, delivered anywhere within the United States, Is this really that hard to understand? It's not semantics - It's how the term 'flat rate' is defined. The only boxes that AREN'T $4.05 for one pound and under, are the REAL flat rate boxes, which cost $8.10 to ship. If you ship one pound or less in priority mail box # 0-1097 that measures 11.25" by 14" by 2.25", the fee is $4.10! The same is true for ALL of the regular, NON-FLAT RATE boxes provided by the post office. By your's and Tony's definition of flat rate, they are ALL flat rate (in brackets). Take a look at USPS.com if you don't believe me! What I believe is that, once again, you're more interested in word games and bull**** than facts. To sum it up - the video box is a set charge for up to a certain weight. The "flat rate" boxes are a set charge for up to a certain weight. Somehow you see these two as being functionally different, when in reality the only thing different in the two situations is the size and weight of the objects you can send with one or the other. By the way - how many coins do you buy that weigh more than a pound? |
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Advice for buying wheat pennies on Ebay?
On 21 Apr 2007 22:49:33 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote:
On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 16:03:31 -0400, Reclining Buddha wrote: On 20 Apr 2007 17:52:31 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote: Take it up with USPS then - the flat rate boxes aren't for use over 70 pounds. Dave, no postal product is for use over 70 pounds - the postal workers union strictly forbids the mailing of ANY item over 70 pounds, Right. The "flat rate" box is another example of "up to a certain weight". Just like the video boxes are flat rate up to a certain weight. The official flat rate boxes are $8.10 for the entire possible range of shipping weights, delivered anywhere within the United States, Is this really that hard to understand? It's not semantics - It's how the term 'flat rate' is defined. The only boxes that AREN'T $4.05 for one pound and under, are the REAL flat rate boxes, which cost $8.10 to ship. If you ship one pound or less in priority mail box # 0-1097 that measures 11.25" by 14" by 2.25", the fee is $4.10! The same is true for ALL of the regular, NON-FLAT RATE boxes provided by the post office. By your's and Tony's definition of flat rate, they are ALL flat rate (in brackets). Take a look at USPS.com if you don't believe me! What I believe is that, once again, you're more interested in word games and bull**** than facts. To sum it up - the video box is a set charge for up to a certain weight. The "flat rate" boxes are a set charge for up to a certain weight. Somehow you see these two as being functionally different, when in reality the only thing different in the two situations is the size and weight of the objects you can send with one or the other. By the way - how many coins do you buy that weigh more than a pound? Dave, obviously you have suffered some type of mental and logical breakdown. Please, do your family and neighbors a favor and seek professional help. Reclining Buddha The Original Couch Potato! |
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Advice for buying wheat pennies on Ebay?
On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 09:58:02 -0400, Reclining Buddha wrote:
On 21 Apr 2007 22:49:33 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote: Right. The "flat rate" box is another example of "up to a certain weight". Just like the video boxes are flat rate up to a certain By the way - how many coins do you buy that weigh more than a pound? Dave, obviously you have suffered some type of mental and logical breakdown. Please, do your family and neighbors a favor and seek professional help. You haven't changed. What a surprise. Do you have _anything_ of value to add to the conversation? I notice you answer my direct questions with abuse - it's so like you. |
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Advice for buying wheat pennies on Ebay?
On Mar 25, 2:36 am, "blue" wrote:
I decided to start on my collection journey by simply buying bulk wheat pennies on Ebay. Well, not so simple after all! I don't understand the lingo- I am collecting just for me, not as an investment, but I figure wheat pennies of all sorts might have *some* increased value over the generations? You might want to buy some coin books first. Especially since the United States never made "pennies" |
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