New "dollar" coin(s)

The sole UK coin slabbing company uses a slab that allows the edge of the
coin to be seen.

This is NOT a recommendation. :-) Billy

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On Feb 13, 10:38 am, Andy MacAskill
wrote:


Edge-incused inscriptions, of course, can't really be displayed, and
that's going to be a pain to collectors of these dollar coins because
the date and mint mark are going to be "edge-incused" (along with "IN
GOD WE TRUST" and "E. PLURIBUS UNUM")!

I wonder if PCGS/NGC are working on a slabbing design that will create
a
prism effect near the edge of the coin, thus allowing the inscription
to be
read when viewing the obverse/reverse.

For the Whitman-esque books, we are out of luck, aside from them
printing
the order. I purchased two sets of the books, one for Philadelphia
and
the other for Denver, as the books were not designed with multiple
mints
in mind.

Les

http://life-of-coins.blogspot.com/

It was common for a very long time to have the reignal year of the monarch
on the edge of English/UK coins.

The current UK £1 coins have differing incuse edge lettering, it varies
according to which design the coin has. Billy


"Andy MacAskill" wrote in message
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Recalling that dollars, pounds, marks, etc. were defined originally as one
twentieth of an ounce of gold (they were, weren't they?), I put the word
"dollar" (backed by nothing but the fact that the IRS will accept such
"dollars" as payment in taxes) in quotation marks.

And the reason for the parenthetical "s" is that the mint's thinking in
terms of many, many dollar coins, one for each el presidente:
http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/index.cfm?flash=yes.

The good news is the reverse design: Lady Liberty herself
(http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/index.cfm?action=reverse).
(Tho' I wonder if the back of the Stainmaker dollar coin will be of the
Lewinsky pig.)

Finally, the "edge-incused" inscriptions
(http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/index.cfm?action=EdgeIncused)
will be of interest to long-time coin collectors like myself: I've only
seen such on, I think, a couple of Greek coins I have.

Edge-incused inscriptions, of course, can't really be displayed, and
that's going to be a pain to collectors of these dollar coins because the
date and mint mark are going to be "edge-incused" (along with "IN GOD WE
TRUST" and "E. PLURIBUS UNUM")!

In article , Christian
Feldhaus wrote:

Andy MacAskill wrote:

Finally, the "edge-incused" inscriptions
(http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/index.cfm?action=EdgeIncused)
will be of interest to long-time coin collectors like myself: I've only
seen such on, I think, a couple of Greek coins I have.

Huh? Such edge inscriptions have been in use for many years in many
countries. Sometimes they are incused, sometimes raised, and in some
cases they are a combination of, say, incused lettering and a milled
edge.

Usually there is some kind of national motto, sometimes the face value,
or just ornaments. And I have a few pieces where the edge is the only
place that has the name of the issuing country. :-)

Christian

The Italian 500 lire piece of the 1950s & '60s had its date in raised
letters on the edge. There may be other coins with dated edges.

On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:39:02 -0500, "Bruce Remick"
wrote:


The whole thing is curious. The mint apparently encourages collecting these
presidential dollars, yet "hides" the date and mint around the edge of the
coin. Although many new collectors will probably insert one each in special
albums in presidential sequence regardless of date or mint, a visible date
and mintmark on the coin's surface has always been the big appeal to album
collectors. If the coins in a series can't be displayed where the dates and
mints are visible, there may be less incentive to collect that series. The
numerous bullion coins probably wouldn't be collected anywhere near as much
if they were undated.

Bruce


What use would the display of the year serve? None of the coins is
going to be minted in multiple years and each is plainly marked with
its place in the series. Leaving the date off of the easily seen
surfaces in effect makes them a 'timeless commemorative of our nations
highest office'. If the statehood quarters were marked with their
'statehood' number, they wouldn't have needed an obvious date, either.


Reclining Buddha

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In 2012, will there be two different designs for Grover Cleveland?
Aram.
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On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:39:02 -0500, "Bruce Remick"
wrote:


The whole thing is curious. The mint apparently encourages collecting
these
presidential dollars, yet "hides" the date and mint around the edge of
the
coin. Although many new collectors will probably insert one each in
special
albums in presidential sequence regardless of date or mint, a visible
date
and mintmark on the coin's surface has always been the big appeal to
album
collectors. If the coins in a series can't be displayed where the dates
and
mints are visible, there may be less incentive to collect that series.
The
numerous bullion coins probably wouldn't be collected anywhere near as
much
if they were undated.

Bruce


What use would the display of the year serve? None of the coins is
going to be minted in multiple years and each is plainly marked with
its place in the series. Leaving the date off of the easily seen
surfaces in effect makes them a 'timeless commemorative of our nations
highest office'. If the statehood quarters were marked with their
'statehood' number, they wouldn't have needed an obvious date, either.


Reclining Buddha

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Like Elvis? i.e. "Thin Grover" and "Fat Grover"??



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"Aram H. Haroutunian" wrote in message
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In 2012, will there be two different designs for Grover Cleveland?
Aram.
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Reclining Buddha wrote in message
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On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:39:02 -0500, "Bruce Remick"
wrote:


The whole thing is curious. The mint apparently encourages collecting
these
presidential dollars, yet "hides" the date and mint around the edge of
the
coin. Although many new collectors will probably insert one each in
special
albums in presidential sequence regardless of date or mint, a visible
date
and mintmark on the coin's surface has always been the big appeal to
album
collectors. If the coins in a series can't be displayed where the dates
and
mints are visible, there may be less incentive to collect that series.
The
numerous bullion coins probably wouldn't be collected anywhere near as
much
if they were undated.

Bruce


What use would the display of the year serve? None of the coins is
going to be minted in multiple years and each is plainly marked with
its place in the series. Leaving the date off of the easily seen
surfaces in effect makes them a 'timeless commemorative of our nations
highest office'. If the statehood quarters were marked with their
'statehood' number, they wouldn't have needed an obvious date, either.


Reclining Buddha

The Original Couch Potato!

Mr. Jaggers wrote:
"Andy MacAskill" wrote in message
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Recalling that dollars, pounds, marks, etc. were defined originally as one
twentieth of an ounce of gold (they were, weren't they?), I put the word
"dollar" (backed by nothing but the fact that the IRS will accept such
"dollars" as payment in taxes) in quotation marks.

Those units of currency were not so defined, even the ones represented by
"etc."

Here's one of the things I've read on the subject, from Robert Ringer's
Restoring the American Dream (page 213 of my hardcover edition):

*** quote on ***
It is important to point out here that weights of gold were described by
various terms in different countries. The word "dollar" came to be used
as the term for 1/20th of an ounce of gold. The dollar itself was not
money; it was simply the name given to a certain quantity of money.
Therefore, not only was money not wealth, but a dollar was not even
money! Similarly, other countries used words like franc and mark to
describe various weights of gold.
*** quote off ***

So I stand corrected. They weren't all 1/20th of an ounce.

And the reason for the parenthetical "s" is that the mint's thinking in
terms of many, many dollar coins, one for each el presidente:
http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/index.cfm?flash=yes.

Several Latin American countries have a presidente. The United States of
America has a President.

True enough.

The good news is the reverse design: Lady Liberty herself
(http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/index.cfm?action=reverse).
(Tho' I wonder if the back of the Stainmaker dollar coin will be of the
Lewinsky pig.)

And the point of this crude statement would be...?

None. Poor taste on my part. Plus, a newscast I've since seen indicated
that only deceased presidents will be featured.

Finally, the "edge-incused" inscriptions
(http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/index.cfm?action=EdgeIncused)
will be of interest to long-time coin collectors like myself: I've only
seen such on, I think, a couple of Greek coins I have.

Early half cents and large cents had lettered edges, as did early half
dollars and dollars. Edge inscriptions may be seen on literally hundreds of
different world coin types, past and present.

I did not know that.

Edge-incused inscriptions, of course, can't really be displayed, and
that's going to be a pain to collectors of these dollar coins because the
date and mint mark are going to be "edge-incused" (along with "IN GOD WE
TRUST" and "E. PLURIBUS UNUM")!

I find that people make their own pains. Would that our problems were no
bigger than that.

True enough. Cheers.

Aram H. Haroutunian wrote:
In 2012, will there be two different designs for Grover Cleveland?
Aram.

Interesting question. He was in there twice, wasn't he? (Two
non-consecutive terms.) But the obverse shows the dates the featured
president was in office, so for GC two date-ranges no doubt will be shown.

But so none of the coins is going to be minted in multiple years? Then
certainly the edge-incused dates should not detract much from their
collectability afer all.

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On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 11:39:02 -0500, "Bruce Remick"
wrote:



The whole thing is curious. The mint apparently encourages collecting

these

presidential dollars, yet "hides" the date and mint around the edge of

the

coin. Although many new collectors will probably insert one each in

special

albums in presidential sequence regardless of date or mint, a visible

date

and mintmark on the coin's surface has always been the big appeal to

album

collectors. If the coins in a series can't be displayed where the dates

and

mints are visible, there may be less incentive to collect that series.

The

numerous bullion coins probably wouldn't be collected anywhere near as

much

if they were undated.

Bruce


What use would the display of the year serve? None of the coins is
going to be minted in multiple years and each is plainly marked with
its place in the series. Leaving the date off of the easily seen
surfaces in effect makes them a 'timeless commemorative of our nations
highest office'. If the statehood quarters were marked with their
'statehood' number, they wouldn't have needed an obvious date, either.


Reclining Buddha

The Original Couch Potato!

In article eNoCh.3676$lG6.1454@trndny08 Andy MacAskill writes:
Aram H. Haroutunian wrote:
In 2012, will there be two different designs for Grover Cleveland?
Aram.

Interesting question. He was in there twice, wasn't he? (Two
non-consecutive terms.) But the obverse shows the dates the featured

If I have followed it correctly, there will be two different designs.
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"Aram H. Haroutunian" wrote in message
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In 2012, will there be two different designs for Grover Cleveland?
Aram.

Yes. Download the schedule you can print out he
https://materials.usmint.gov/$1Coin/downloads/AA2_R_Sched_686Access.pdf

Very cool, huh?

Jonathan_ATC