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Question re. Tete-Beche
Are stamps considered Tete-Beche even if they are divided by a center
gutter or only if the are attached directly to each other ?. Thanks |
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"Alan" skrev i en meddelelse
.. . Are stamps considered Tete-Beche even if they are divided by a center gutter or only if the are attached directly to each other ?. Thanks I would believe only if they are attached directly to each other, since the center gutter is often used in the production of booklets. -- Best regards Ann Mette Heindorff (Mette) reply to heindorffhus at heindorffhus dot dk http://www.heindorffhus.dk ------ Outgoing messages.checked with Norton AV |
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"Alan" wrote in message .. . Are stamps considered Tete-Beche even if they are divided by a center gutter or only if the are attached directly to each other ?. Thanks I believe that they would be described as tete-beche simply to describe that they were inverted with respect to one another - regardless of whether they were separated by a gutter or not. The fact that a pair of stamps is tete-beche does not of course imply any special value - that depends entirely on the circumstances. That particular orientation might be entirely normal in the issued sheets but if the exisrence of the pair resulted from a failure to guillotine the sheet as intended, then the item could be quite valuable. I believe that the tete-beche variant of the 1929 1a definitive of India (SG 203) can exist with or without a dividing gutter. My copy has no gutter but copies with the gutter can, I speculate, come only from the central columns of the sheet and are less common as a result. Perhaps an expert in this issue could advise? Regards, Roger |
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Roger Smith wrote:
"Alan" wrote in message .. . Are stamps considered Tete-Beche even if they are divided by a center gutter or only if the are attached directly to each other ?. Thanks I believe that they would be described as tete-beche simply to describe that they were inverted with respect to one another - regardless of whether they were separated by a gutter or not. The fact that a pair of stamps is tete-beche does not of course imply any special value - that depends entirely on the circumstances. That particular orientation might be entirely normal in the issued sheets but if the exisrence of the pair resulted from a failure to guillotine the sheet as intended, then the item could be quite valuable. I believe that the tete-beche variant of the 1929 1a definitive of India (SG 203) can exist with or without a dividing gutter. My copy has no gutter but copies with the gutter can, I speculate, come only from the central columns of the sheet and are less common as a result. Perhaps an expert in this issue could advise? Regards, Roger Strangely enough, that is the stamp I am talking about !! Alan |
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What you describe would be called a tęte-bęche gutter pair.
Jay Carrigan change domain to mchsi www.jaypex.com In article , says... "Alan" skrev i en meddelelse . .. Are stamps considered Tete-Beche even if they are divided by a center gutter or only if the are attached directly to each other ?. Thanks I would believe only if they are attached directly to each other, since the center gutter is often used in the production of booklets. -- Best regards Ann Mette Heindorff (Mette) reply to heindorffhus at heindorffhus dot dk http://www.heindorffhus.dk ------ Outgoing messages.checked with Norton AV |
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Alan a pensé trčs fort :
Are stamps considered Tete-Beche even if they are divided by a center gutter I think NO, I collect Switzerland where you have such stamps and Zumstein doesn't tell those pairs as "tęte bęche" but as "se tenant" with a gutter (pont in French, Zwischensteg in German)!! or only if the are attached directly to each other YES have a nice day (here 8.20 am) -- Jean-Paul DROGER (enlever "anti." et remplacer "ptt" par "wanadoo" pour me joindre en perso; remove "anti." and replace "ptt" by "wanadoo" to answer me directly) |
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Alan wrote :
Strangely enough, that is the stamp I am talking about !! He he he, Alan ! A world cruise ??? ;-) -- All the best, Pierre Courtiade courtiade at free dot fr |
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If the term had originated from bibliography, I'd suggest
the determinant would be that they be connected, in whichever way and that one image be inverted. Tęte-bęche(tet besh') A form of binding in which the text of one work begins at the "front" and the text of another at the "back," head to tail, with the texts being inverted with respect to one another. Such a volume usually includes two or more separate works or versions of the same work(s). Synonymous with inverted pages. Tęte-bęche example here. Compare with dos-a-dos. Tęte-bęche is also a philately term for a pair of stamps, one of which has been printed inverted. Note: Tęte-bęche can also be spelled tete-beche http://bibliomania.net/Glossary.html .........and for those who may be interested in a members signature Albumen ALBUMEN PRINT A photographic print made on paper on which egg whites (albumen) are coated in order to increase the paper's sensitivity and tonal qualities. The details of the albumen print process were first published in 1858. Egg whites were beaten to a froth and drops of a saturated solution of potassium nitrate were added together with a solution of silver nitrate. Gustave Le Gray, Hunt & Pollack were early users of the method which then dominated photography for the next forty years. Albumen prints were the state of the art in photography prints on paper from about 1855 until about 1895. The range of tones and detail in the shadow area as well as in the highlights is a special feature of this paper. The tonal quality was sometimes better than that of modern studio portrait prints. An albumen print can always be identified by the sheen on the paper surface due to "egginess" of the albumen mixture. | Are stamps considered Tete-Beche even if they are divided by a center | gutter or only if the are attached directly to each other ?. | Thanks | | I believe that they would be described as tete-beche simply to describe that | they were inverted with respect to one another - regardless of whether they | were separated by a gutter or not. | | The fact that a pair of stamps is tete-beche does not of course imply any | special value - that depends entirely on the circumstances. That particular | orientation might be entirely normal in the issued sheets but if the | exisrence of the pair resulted from a failure to guillotine the sheet as | intended, then the item could be quite valuable. | | I believe that the tete-beche variant of the 1929 1a definitive of India (SG | 203) can exist with or without a dividing gutter. My copy has no gutter but | copies with the gutter can, I speculate, come only from the central columns | of the sheet and are less common as a result. Perhaps an expert in this | issue could advise? | | Regards, Roger | | |
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I collect Netherlands and (former) colonies and in the Dutch "Speciale
Catalogus" tęte-bęche means that the stamps are directly attached to eachother. If a gutter is present it is called "tęte-bęche with gutter". Prices are quite different. Well known example is 7,5 ct Queen Wilhelmina from 1924, which exists in both ways. Regards Ton van Reenen "DROGER Jean-Paul" schreef in bericht ... Alan a pensé trčs fort : Are stamps considered Tete-Beche even if they are divided by a center gutter I think NO, I collect Switzerland where you have such stamps and Zumstein doesn't tell those pairs as "tęte bęche" but as "se tenant" with a gutter (pont in French, Zwischensteg in German)!! or only if the are attached directly to each other YES have a nice day (here 8.20 am) -- Jean-Paul DROGER (enlever "anti." et remplacer "ptt" par "wanadoo" pour me joindre en perso; remove "anti." and replace "ptt" by "wanadoo" to answer me directly) |
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"Rodney" wrote in message ... If the term had originated from bibliography, I'd suggest the determinant would be that they be connected, in whichever way and that one image be inverted. Tęte-bęche(tet besh') A form of binding in which the text of one work begins at the "front" and the text of another at the "back," head to tail, with the texts being inverted with respect to one another. Such a volume usually includes two or more separate works or versions of the same work(s). Synonymous with inverted pages. (snip) Rodney I believe we have seen this on occasion in the fashion supplements of some of our newspapers. Starting from one end is everthing to do with mens fashions and starting at the other end is everything to do with womens fashions. I have always been disappointed when the editor has not been more imaginative in dealing with the meeting of the two ends in 69-fashion (so to speak) in the middle. :-) Regards, Roger |
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