Deadline approaches -- need French-English translation

A photograph apparently intended for use in a French-language
newspaper shows the beginning of the MacRobertson International Air
Race. A “cutline” in longhand at the top of the photo roughly
translates (I think) as "21-10-34 — Yesterday at Mildenhall Aerodrome,
(Suffolk) at the beginning of the air race from England to Australia,
Parmentier and Moll start their Cyclone [engines]. They are currently
in second place."

Can any French speaker confirm the above translation, or supply
corrections? A (mostly) readable image is at
http://www.bcphilatelic.org/Uiver_race_beginning.jpg.

Bob

On Apr 17, 6:38 pm, Bobstamp wrote:
A photograph apparently intended for use in a French-language
newspaper shows the beginning of the MacRobertson International Air
Race. A “cutline” in longhand at the top of the photo roughly
translates (I think) as "21-10-34 — Yesterday at Mildenhall Aerodrome,
(Suffolk) at the beginning of the air race from England to Australia,
Parmentier and Moll start their Cyclone [engines]. They are currently
in second place."

Can any French speaker confirm the above translation, or supply
corrections? A (mostly) readable image is athttp://www.bcphilatelic.org/Uiver_race_beginning.jpg.

Bob


Bob:

To touch up the English grammar a bit.....

"21-10-34 — Yesterday, at Mildenhall Aerodrome, (Suffolk) the
beginning
of the England to Australia air race took place.

The picture shows the departure of the "Cyclone", piloted by
Parmentier and G. Moll.

They are currently in second place."

(Looks like second to me.)

Blair

On Apr 17, 4:09*pm, "Blair (TC)" wrote:
On Apr 17, 6:38 pm, Bobstamp wrote:

A photograph apparently intended for use in a French-language
newspaper shows the beginning of the MacRobertson International Air
Race. A “cutline” in longhand at the top of the photo roughly
translates (I think) as "21-10-34 — Yesterday at Mildenhall Aerodrome,
(Suffolk) at the beginning of the air race from England to Australia,
Parmentier and Moll start their Cyclone [engines]. They are currently
in second place."

Can any French speaker confirm the above translation, or supply
corrections? A (mostly) readable image is athttp://www.bcphilatelic.org/Uiver_race_beginning.jpg.

Bob

Bob:

To touch up the English grammar a bit.....
Thanks for helping, Blair. The photograph definitely shows the KLM
DC-2 Uiver, which placed second in the handicap division of the
MacRobertson race. The DC-2 was powered by Wright Cyclone engines, but
I agree with your translation. I wonder if there was confusion in the
mind of the writer over the name of the aircraft: Uiver is Old Dutch
for Stork, which of course in French is Cigogne, which could be
confused with..."Cyclone"?

Bob

P.S. Aviation buffs should take note of the aircraft in the
background, a Bee Gee, which was flown (unsuccessfully) in the race.
This photo is a good example of how people should not skimp on bidding
on eBay. I lost the bid at the last minute, and wish I had doubled my
bid, which would probably have ensured that it ended up in my
collection. However, the winner was kind and sent me a hi-res scan.

"21-10-34 — Yesterday, at Mildenhall Aerodrome, (Suffolk) the
beginning
of the England to Australia air race took place.

The picture shows the departure of the "Cyclone", piloted by
Parmentier and G. Moll.

They are currently in second place."

(Looks like second to me.)

Blair

Just a FYI
I have flown many tens of flights on MacRobertson's.
one of my best friends a hostess on the airways,
The chocolate millionaire, was the genesis of Western Australia's
local state wide service, esp for the miners in our early days of
the Iron ore boom.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacRobe...iller_Airlines




"Bobstamp" wrote in message
...
A photograph apparently intended for use in a French-language
newspaper shows the beginning of the MacRobertson International Air
Race. A “cutline” in longhand at the top of the photo roughly
translates (I think) as "21-10-34 — Yesterday at Mildenhall Aerodrome,
(Suffolk) at the beginning of the air race from England to Australia,
Parmentier and Moll start their Cyclone [engines]. They are currently
in second place."

Can any French speaker confirm the above translation, or supply
corrections? A (mostly) readable image is at
http://www.bcphilatelic.org/Uiver_race_beginning.jpg.

Bob

Your translation is correct, but I believe Cyclone is the plane, not the
engine.

Tony

"Bobstamp" wrote in message
...
A photograph apparently intended for use in a French-language
newspaper shows the beginning of the MacRobertson International Air
Race. A “cutline” in longhand at the top of the photo roughly
translates (I think) as "21-10-34 — Yesterday at Mildenhall Aerodrome,
(Suffolk) at the beginning of the air race from England to Australia,
Parmentier and Moll start their Cyclone [engines]. They are currently
in second place."

Can any French speaker confirm the above translation, or supply
corrections? A (mostly) readable image is at
http://www.bcphilatelic.org/Uiver_race_beginning.jpg.

Bob

Tony,

I've been wrong before -- on several occasions! -- but in this case
I'm not. Whoever wrote the description on the photograph was mistaken.
There was only one DC-2 in the MacRobertson race, the KLM Uiver, which
means Stork in Old Dutch. The DC-2 was powered by Wright Cyclone
engines, which is one of many reasons it became such a well-known
aircraft (at the time) and was soon superseded by the DC-3, early
models of which were also powered by Cyclones.

Here's a photo of the Uiver landing at Melbourne:
http://www.ingraham.ca/bob/uiver_landing_melbourne.jpg. Unfortunately,
there are no stamps that show the Uiver, although there are quite a
number of Uiver-flown covers available, from the race and from its
crash in Iraq in December, 1934 -- here's an example of one of those:
http://www.ingraham.ca/bob/Uivercrashcover.jpg.

Bob

On Apr 19, 9:58*am, "antoine gelat" wrote:
Your translation is correct, but I believe Cyclone is the plane, not the
engine.

Tony

I am a little confused here.
Is "The Uiver" the name for all DC2's?

or just that particular aircraft in the race?


"Bobstamp" wrote in message
...
On Apr 17, 4:09 pm, "Blair (TC)" wrote:
On Apr 17, 6:38 pm, Bobstamp wrote:

A photograph apparently intended for use in a French-language
newspaper shows the beginning of the MacRobertson International Air
Race. A “cutline” in longhand at the top of the photo roughly
translates (I think) as "21-10-34 — Yesterday at Mildenhall Aerodrome,
(Suffolk) at the beginning of the air race from England to Australia,
Parmentier and Moll start their Cyclone [engines]. They are currently
in second place."

Can any French speaker confirm the above translation, or supply
corrections? A (mostly) readable image is
athttp://www.bcphilatelic.org/Uiver_race_beginning.jpg.

Bob

Bob:

To touch up the English grammar a bit.....
Thanks for helping, Blair. The photograph definitely shows the KLM
DC-2 Uiver, which placed second in the handicap division of the
MacRobertson race. The DC-2 was powered by Wright Cyclone engines, but
I agree with your translation. I wonder if there was confusion in the
mind of the writer over the name of the aircraft: Uiver is Old Dutch
for Stork, which of course in French is Cigogne, which could be
confused with..."Cyclone"?

Bob

P.S. Aviation buffs should take note of the aircraft in the
background, a Bee Gee, which was flown (unsuccessfully) in the race.
This photo is a good example of how people should not skimp on bidding
on eBay. I lost the bid at the last minute, and wish I had doubled my
bid, which would probably have ensured that it ended up in my
collection. However, the winner was kind and sent me a hi-res scan.

"21-10-34 — Yesterday, at Mildenhall Aerodrome, (Suffolk) the
beginning
of the England to Australia air race took place.

The picture shows the departure of the "Cyclone", piloted by
Parmentier and G. Moll.

They are currently in second place."

(Looks like second to me.)

Blair

On Apr 23, 12:14 am, "rodney" wrote:
I am a little confused here.
Is "The Uiver" the name for all DC2's?

or just that particular aircraft in the race?

"Bobstamp" wrote in message

...
On Apr 17, 4:09 pm, "Blair (TC)" wrote:

On Apr 17, 6:38 pm, Bobstamp wrote:

A photograph apparently intended for use in a French-language
newspaper shows the beginning of the MacRobertson International Air
Race. A “cutline” in longhand at the top of the photo roughly
translates (I think) as "21-10-34 — Yesterday at Mildenhall Aerodrome,
(Suffolk) at the beginning of the air race from England to Australia,
Parmentier and Moll start their Cyclone [engines]. They are currently
in second place."

Can any French speaker confirm the above translation, or supply
corrections? A (mostly) readable image is
athttp://www.bcphilatelic.org/Uiver_race_beginning.jpg.

Bob

Bob:

To touch up the English grammar a bit.....

Thanks for helping, Blair. The photograph definitely shows the KLM
DC-2 Uiver, which placed second in the handicap division of the
MacRobertson race. The DC-2 was powered by Wright Cyclone engines, but
I agree with your translation. I wonder if there was confusion in the
mind of the writer over the name of the aircraft: Uiver is Old Dutch
for Stork, which of course in French is Cigogne, which could be
confused with..."Cyclone"?

Bob

P.S. Aviation buffs should take note of the aircraft in the
background, a Bee Gee, which was flown (unsuccessfully) in the race.
This photo is a good example of how people should not skimp on bidding
on eBay. I lost the bid at the last minute, and wish I had doubled my
bid, which would probably have ensured that it ended up in my
collection. However, the winner was kind and sent me a hi-res scan.

"21-10-34 — Yesterday, at Mildenhall Aerodrome, (Suffolk) the
beginning
of the England to Australia air race took place.

The picture shows the departure of the "Cyclone", piloted by
Parmentier and G. Moll.

They are currently in second place."

(Looks like second to me.)

Blair

Only one DC-2 was called the Ulver. Just like ships.

On Apr 23, 6:25 am, "Blair (TC)" wrote:
On Apr 23, 12:14 am, "rodney" wrote:



I am a little confused here.
Is "The Uiver" the name for all DC2's?

or just that particular aircraft in the race?

"Bobstamp" wrote in message

...
On Apr 17, 4:09 pm, "Blair (TC)" wrote:

On Apr 17, 6:38 pm, Bobstamp wrote:

A photograph apparently intended for use in a French-language
newspaper shows the beginning of the MacRobertson International Air
Race. A “cutline” in longhand at the top of the photo roughly
translates (I think) as "21-10-34 — Yesterday at Mildenhall Aerodrome,
(Suffolk) at the beginning of the air race from England to Australia,
Parmentier and Moll start their Cyclone [engines]. They are currently
in second place."

Can any French speaker confirm the above translation, or supply
corrections? A (mostly) readable image is
athttp://www.bcphilatelic.org/Uiver_race_beginning.jpg.

Bob

Bob:

To touch up the English grammar a bit.....

Thanks for helping, Blair. The photograph definitely shows the KLM
DC-2 Uiver, which placed second in the handicap division of the
MacRobertson race. The DC-2 was powered by Wright Cyclone engines, but
I agree with your translation. I wonder if there was confusion in the
mind of the writer over the name of the aircraft: Uiver is Old Dutch
for Stork, which of course in French is Cigogne, which could be
confused with..."Cyclone"?

Bob

P.S. Aviation buffs should take note of the aircraft in the
background, a Bee Gee, which was flown (unsuccessfully) in the race.
This photo is a good example of how people should not skimp on bidding
on eBay. I lost the bid at the last minute, and wish I had doubled my
bid, which would probably have ensured that it ended up in my
collection. However, the winner was kind and sent me a hi-res scan.

"21-10-34 — Yesterday, at Mildenhall Aerodrome, (Suffolk) the
beginning
of the England to Australia air race took place.

The picture shows the departure of the "Cyclone", piloted by
Parmentier and G. Moll.

They are currently in second place."

(Looks like second to me.)

Blair

Only one DC-2 was called the Ulver. Just like ships.

"Blair (TC)"
Only one DC-2 was called the Ulver. Just like ships.

OK, that's what caught me ,
I had imagined "types" of aircraft had nicknames,
"The Guppy" etc.
Thanks for clarifying,
I had seen a DC2 on a stamp of Palau/Belau,
and the one on the first flight stamp of LIA Liberian Int Airways
looks suspiciously like a DC2.