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Old December 2nd 08, 07:11 AM posted to alt.politics.bush,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.radio.broadcasting,rec.collecting.coins,alt.politics.democrats
Janet Porter
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Default Obama's Birth Certificate is Fake

The media bought it. The voters bought it. And now some in Congress are
resisting the idea of congressional hearings because they believe that
Barack Obama's "birth certificate" has been posted online.

Not so.

What was posted was not a birth certificate, but something that resembles a
"Certification of Live Birth" or COLB, which, even if authentic, does not
prove "natural born" U.S. citizenship. You see, in Hawaii, a Certification
of Live Birth is issued within a year of a child's birth to those who
register a birth abroad or one that takes place outside a hospital.

It's Rathergate all over again with more amiss than a 1970s Selectric
typewriter. But before I tell you what the experts found, let me ask you a
few questions:

If you were a natural born American citizen and had it within your means to
quiet all the lawsuits and questions with proof, would you do it?


If you were a natural born American citizen, would you spend thousands of
dollars to fight the legal cases against you, or would you simply answer the
legitimate question of whether you meet the constitutional requirements for
office?


If you were a natural born American citizen, would you forge a document
called a "Certification of Live Birth" and tell the public it was a real
"birth certificate"?
If someone were to violate the law by manufacturing a forgery in order trick
the public, would that be enough evidence for members of Congress to conduct
hearings and for a court to issue an order for the critical records,
including the original long-form birth certificate (signed by the doctor) to
ensure that the U.S. constitutional requirements for office were not
violated? After all, Congress is sworn to uphold and defend that
Constitution, and the justices on the U.S. Supreme Court are "guardians" of
the Constitution. That's their job, isn't it?

Ron Polarik, who holds a Ph.D. in Instructional Media and specializes in
computer graphics with over 20 years experience with computers, printers and
typewriters, has come forth with more definitive evidence than the word
processor that tried to simulate a 1970s Selectric typewriter.

Polarik has submitted a signed affidavit and has now released his findings
on video at www.ObamaForgery.com with his identity masked and voice altered
to guard against the carrying out of threats, which he has already received.


The Summary: The Certificate of Live Birth documents posted on Mr. Obama's
website www.fightthesmears.com, Daily Kos (a pro-Obama blog) and
factcheck.org, (a pro-Obama political research group), were found to be
altered and forged.

The problem of the pixels: When you have a green patterned document such as
this, there should be a lot of green pixels from the background showing up
between the letters that appear on the certification. But in this case,
instead of green pixels, there are white and grey pixels between the
letters, which result when you replace existing text with other text.


There is no second fold line. The pictures show two folds - necessary to fit
any COLB into an envelope for mailing, but the document itself shows only
one fold. This is another indication of document alteration.


There's a blurred border. The border has a lower resolution than the rest of
the document, which is another indication that it has been altered.


The border is one that is used in 2007 COLBs. As a security measure, Hawaii
changes their borders every year. This is when the Obama campaign claims the
certificate was obtained. That is fine except for the problem that .


The seal and signature stamp are from a 2008 COLB. As revealed by a process
called edging, the Hawaiian seal and signature stamp on the back of the
document are revealed to be from the wrong year!
Like with Rathergate, when you're creating documents, make sure you use only
a typewriter that was invented at the time you report the document was
manufactured. When posting a "Certification of Live Birth," make sure you
"borrow" only from documents used in the same year!

Be sure to sign the petition demanding evidence of Barack Obama's
constitutional qualifications.

But beyond the birth certificate issue, there's the matter that Obama
traveled to Indonesia, Pakistan, Southern India and Kenya in 1981. He said
he went to Indonesia to see his mother. This seemed plausible, except for
the fact that his mother returned to Hawaii in August of 1980 to file for a
divorce from her second husband, Lolo Soetoro. Unless she went back to pal
around with the man she divorced, she wasn't there at the time of Obama's
visit.

There's another problem. No record of Obama holding an American passport
prior to the one he received once becoming a U.S. senator has been found. If
he traveled to Pakistan with an American passport, he wouldn't have been
allowed in - since Pakistan was in turmoil in 1981 and under martial law. It
was also on the State Department's travel ban list for U.S. citizens.

If he couldn't get into Pakistan with a U.S. passport, perhaps he went there
with an Indonesian passport. But the only way you can get one of those is if
you are an Indonesian citizen.

That's quite possible since under Indonesian law, when a male acknowledges a
child as his son, it deems the son - in this case Obama - to be an
Indonesian state citizen, which was also recorded by Obama's school record.

So, if he didn't go to Indonesia in 1981 to visit mom (who had returned to
Hawaii by then), might it have something to do with the fact that Indonesian
passports expire every five years and it was time for renewal?

Why does that matter?

If Obama would have been a U.S. citizen, 8 USC §1481(a)(2) provides loss of
nationality by native born citizens upon "taking an oath or making an
affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state ...
after having attained the age of eighteen years," in violation of 8 U.S.C.
§1401(a)(1). Simply put, since Indonesia did not allow for dual citizenship,
if Obama got that passport in 1981, when he was 20 years old, he effectively
renounced any U.S. citizenship he may have had.

So, if the experts are right, Obama forged a Certification of Live Birth to
fool America. In addition to the automatic Indonesian citizenship granted to
a child acknowledged as a "son" by an Indonesian male citizen, and the
Indonesian citizenship listed in Obama's school records, Obama then traveled
to a place where Americans weren't allowed to go, but citizens of Indonesia
were. If he obtained an Indonesian passport on his trip in 1981, he
effectively renounced any American citizenship he may have had and cannot
serve as president (or "rule" as president, as members of his campaign have
stated). These are serious questions that must have answers.

If Obama gets into office without verification that he has met the
requirements of the U.S. Constitution, if you care about life, liberty or
the family, you're going to have to make hundreds of calls to try and fight
an agenda that seeks to silence you.

There is a way to help prevent this. Our founders sacrificed their lives,
their fortunes and their sacred honor. I'm asking you to do three things.

Fast and pray for all the hidden things to come to light.


Call the Republican members of the House Judiciary Committee - in their
district offices while they're home this week for Thanksgiving. Ask them to
"Please hold congressional hearings to investigate whether Barack Obama
meets the basic constitutional requirements for the highest office of the
land."


Write a letter to the nine Justices of the United States Supreme Court
(names are listed below) and put them in a FedEx (or other overnight)
envelope to:
U.S. Supreme Court
1 First Street, N.E
Washington, D.C. 20543

Our Constitution matters and defending it is going to take an outcry from
the public. The electors vote on Dec. 15. The numbers are below and your
immediate action is critically needed right now. Do it before defending our
liberties costs a lot more than making some phone calls and writing a few
letters.

The Republican House Judiciary members: Call them at 202-225-3121, AND most
importantly reach them in their district offices:

Lamar Smith (Texas), ranking member, critical in any hearings: 512-306-0439
Austin, 830-896-0154 Kerrville, and 210-821-5024 San Antonio.

James Sensenbrenner (Wisconsin) 800-242-1119 or 262-784-1111 Brookfield

Howard Coble (North Carolina) 336-333-5005 Greensboro, 336-626-3060
Asheboro, 336-886-5106 High Point, 226-229-0159 Graham, 704-209-0426 Granite
Quarry

Elton Gallegly (California) 800-423-0023 or 805-497-2224 Thousand Oaks,
805-686-2525 Solvang

Bob Goodlatte (Virginia) 540-432-2391 Harrisonburg, 434-845-8306 Lynchburg,
540-857-2672 Roanoke, and 540-885-3861 Staunton

Steve Chabot (Ohio) 513-684-2723 Cincinnati

Dan Lungren (California) 916-859-9906 Gold River

Chris Cannon (Utah) 800-571-2971 Provo, 801-569-5125 West Jordan

Ric Keller (Florida) 407-872-1962 Orlando, 888-642-1211 Eustis, 888-642-1211
Ocala

Darrell Issa (California) 951-693-2447 Temecula, 760-599-5000 San Diego

Mike Pence (Indiana) 765-640-2919 Anderson, 765-962-2883 Richmond,
765-747-5566 Muncie

Randy Forbes (Virginia) 757-382-0080 Chesapeake, 804-526-4969 Colonial
Heights, 434-634-5575 Emporia

Steve King (Iowa) 641-782-2495 Creston, 712-580-7754 Spencer, 712-325-1404
Council Bluffs, 712-224-4692 Sioux City, 712-732-4197 Storm Lake

Tom Feeney (Florida) 386-756-9798 Port Orange, 407-208-1106 Orlando,
321-264-6113 Titusville

Trent Franks (Arizona) 623-776-7911 Glendale

Louie Gohmert (Texas) 866-535-6302 Lufkin/Marshall/Nagadoches, 903-236-8597
Longview, 903-561-6349 Tyler

Jim Jordan (Ohio) 419-522-5757 Mansfield, 419-999-6455 Lima, 419-423-3210
Findlay

Supreme Court Justices

Chief Justice John Roberts

Associate Justices:

Samuel A. Alito
Clarence Thomas
Antonin Scalia
Anthony M. Kennedy
David H. Souter
John Paul Stevens
Stephen G. Breyer
Ruth Bader Ginsberg



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  #2  
Old December 2nd 08, 07:18 AM posted to alt.politics.bush,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.radio.broadcasting,rec.collecting.coins,alt.politics.democrats
Baldin Lee Pramer
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Default Obama's Birth Certificate is Fake

On Dec 2, 12:11*am, "Janet Porter" wrote:
T


Saaaay.... you're new around here. Come on -- let me buy you a drink.
I like your sweater.

Pramer

  #3  
Old December 2nd 08, 08:06 AM posted to alt.politics.bush,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.radio.broadcasting,rec.collecting.coins,alt.politics.democrats
Chris Darwin
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Default Obama's Birth Certificate is Fake

Barack Obama is our new president

the dems won 20+ in the house and 6+ in the Senate

the repugs got their asses kicked two elections in a row.

and your phony bogus hunt for a birth certificate isn't going to
change that

GET OVER IT, OBAMA IS PRESIDENT
  #4  
Old December 2nd 08, 09:37 AM posted to alt.politics.bush,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.radio.broadcasting,rec.collecting.coins,alt.politics.democrats
Freckles
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Default Obama's Birth Certificate is Fake


"Janet Porter" wrote in message
...
The media bought it. The voters bought it. And now some in Congress are
resisting the idea of congressional hearings because they believe that
Barack Obama's "birth certificate" has been posted online.

Not so.

What was posted was not a birth certificate, but something that resembles
a "Certification of Live Birth" or COLB, which, even if authentic, does
not prove "natural born" U.S. citizenship. You see, in Hawaii, a
Certification of Live Birth is issued within a year of a child's birth to
those who register a birth abroad or one that takes place outside a
hospital.

It's Rathergate all over again with more amiss than a 1970s Selectric
typewriter. But before I tell you what the experts found, let me ask you a
few questions:

If you were a natural born American citizen and had it within your means
to quiet all the lawsuits and questions with proof, would you do it?


If you were a natural born American citizen, would you spend thousands of
dollars to fight the legal cases against you, or would you simply answer
the legitimate question of whether you meet the constitutional
requirements for office?


If you were a natural born American citizen, would you forge a document
called a "Certification of Live Birth" and tell the public it was a real
"birth certificate"?
If someone were to violate the law by manufacturing a forgery in order
trick the public, would that be enough evidence for members of Congress to
conduct hearings and for a court to issue an order for the critical
records, including the original long-form birth certificate (signed by the
doctor) to ensure that the U.S. constitutional requirements for office
were not violated? After all, Congress is sworn to uphold and defend that
Constitution, and the justices on the U.S. Supreme Court are "guardians"
of the Constitution. That's their job, isn't it?

Ron Polarik, who holds a Ph.D. in Instructional Media and specializes in
computer graphics with over 20 years experience with computers, printers
and typewriters, has come forth with more definitive evidence than the
word processor that tried to simulate a 1970s Selectric typewriter.

Polarik has submitted a signed affidavit and has now released his findings
on video at www.ObamaForgery.com with his identity masked and voice
altered to guard against the carrying out of threats, which he has already
received.


The Summary: The Certificate of Live Birth documents posted on Mr. Obama's
website www.fightthesmears.com, Daily Kos (a pro-Obama blog) and
factcheck.org, (a pro-Obama political research group), were found to be
altered and forged.

The problem of the pixels: When you have a green patterned document such
as this, there should be a lot of green pixels from the background showing
up between the letters that appear on the certification. But in this case,
instead of green pixels, there are white and grey pixels between the
letters, which result when you replace existing text with other text.


There is no second fold line. The pictures show two folds - necessary to
fit any COLB into an envelope for mailing, but the document itself shows
only one fold. This is another indication of document alteration.


There's a blurred border. The border has a lower resolution than the rest
of the document, which is another indication that it has been altered.


The border is one that is used in 2007 COLBs. As a security measure,
Hawaii changes their borders every year. This is when the Obama campaign
claims the certificate was obtained. That is fine except for the problem
that .


The seal and signature stamp are from a 2008 COLB. As revealed by a
process called edging, the Hawaiian seal and signature stamp on the back
of the document are revealed to be from the wrong year!
Like with Rathergate, when you're creating documents, make sure you use
only a typewriter that was invented at the time you report the document
was manufactured. When posting a "Certification of Live Birth," make sure
you "borrow" only from documents used in the same year!

Be sure to sign the petition demanding evidence of Barack Obama's
constitutional qualifications.

But beyond the birth certificate issue, there's the matter that Obama
traveled to Indonesia, Pakistan, Southern India and Kenya in 1981. He said
he went to Indonesia to see his mother. This seemed plausible, except for
the fact that his mother returned to Hawaii in August of 1980 to file for
a divorce from her second husband, Lolo Soetoro. Unless she went back to
pal around with the man she divorced, she wasn't there at the time of
Obama's visit.

There's another problem. No record of Obama holding an American passport
prior to the one he received once becoming a U.S. senator has been found.
If he traveled to Pakistan with an American passport, he wouldn't have
been allowed in - since Pakistan was in turmoil in 1981 and under martial
law. It was also on the State Department's travel ban list for U.S.
citizens.

If he couldn't get into Pakistan with a U.S. passport, perhaps he went
there with an Indonesian passport. But the only way you can get one of
those is if you are an Indonesian citizen.

That's quite possible since under Indonesian law, when a male acknowledges
a child as his son, it deems the son - in this case Obama - to be an
Indonesian state citizen, which was also recorded by Obama's school
record.

So, if he didn't go to Indonesia in 1981 to visit mom (who had returned to
Hawaii by then), might it have something to do with the fact that
Indonesian passports expire every five years and it was time for renewal?

Why does that matter?

If Obama would have been a U.S. citizen, 8 USC §1481(a)(2) provides loss
of nationality by native born citizens upon "taking an oath or making an
affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state
... after having attained the age of eighteen years," in violation of 8
U.S.C. §1401(a)(1). Simply put, since Indonesia did not allow for dual
citizenship, if Obama got that passport in 1981, when he was 20 years old,
he effectively renounced any U.S. citizenship he may have had.

So, if the experts are right, Obama forged a Certification of Live Birth
to fool America. In addition to the automatic Indonesian citizenship
granted to a child acknowledged as a "son" by an Indonesian male citizen,
and the Indonesian citizenship listed in Obama's school records, Obama
then traveled to a place where Americans weren't allowed to go, but
citizens of Indonesia were. If he obtained an Indonesian passport on his
trip in 1981, he effectively renounced any American citizenship he may
have had and cannot serve as president (or "rule" as president, as members
of his campaign have stated). These are serious questions that must have
answers.

If Obama gets into office without verification that he has met the
requirements of the U.S. Constitution, if you care about life, liberty or
the family, you're going to have to make hundreds of calls to try and
fight an agenda that seeks to silence you.

There is a way to help prevent this. Our founders sacrificed their lives,
their fortunes and their sacred honor. I'm asking you to do three things.

Fast and pray for all the hidden things to come to light.


Call the Republican members of the House Judiciary Committee - in their
district offices while they're home this week for Thanksgiving. Ask them
to "Please hold congressional hearings to investigate whether Barack Obama
meets the basic constitutional requirements for the highest office of the
land."


Write a letter to the nine Justices of the United States Supreme Court
(names are listed below) and put them in a FedEx (or other overnight)
envelope to:
U.S. Supreme Court
1 First Street, N.E
Washington, D.C. 20543

Our Constitution matters and defending it is going to take an outcry from
the public. The electors vote on Dec. 15. The numbers are below and your
immediate action is critically needed right now. Do it before defending
our liberties costs a lot more than making some phone calls and writing a
few letters.

The Republican House Judiciary members: Call them at 202-225-3121, AND
most importantly reach them in their district offices:

Lamar Smith (Texas), ranking member, critical in any hearings:
512-306-0439 Austin, 830-896-0154 Kerrville, and 210-821-5024 San Antonio.

James Sensenbrenner (Wisconsin) 800-242-1119 or 262-784-1111 Brookfield

Howard Coble (North Carolina) 336-333-5005 Greensboro, 336-626-3060
Asheboro, 336-886-5106 High Point, 226-229-0159 Graham, 704-209-0426
Granite Quarry

Elton Gallegly (California) 800-423-0023 or 805-497-2224 Thousand Oaks,
805-686-2525 Solvang

Bob Goodlatte (Virginia) 540-432-2391 Harrisonburg, 434-845-8306
Lynchburg, 540-857-2672 Roanoke, and 540-885-3861 Staunton

Steve Chabot (Ohio) 513-684-2723 Cincinnati

Dan Lungren (California) 916-859-9906 Gold River

Chris Cannon (Utah) 800-571-2971 Provo, 801-569-5125 West Jordan

Ric Keller (Florida) 407-872-1962 Orlando, 888-642-1211 Eustis,
888-642-1211 Ocala

Darrell Issa (California) 951-693-2447 Temecula, 760-599-5000 San Diego

Mike Pence (Indiana) 765-640-2919 Anderson, 765-962-2883 Richmond,
765-747-5566 Muncie

Randy Forbes (Virginia) 757-382-0080 Chesapeake, 804-526-4969 Colonial
Heights, 434-634-5575 Emporia

Steve King (Iowa) 641-782-2495 Creston, 712-580-7754 Spencer, 712-325-1404
Council Bluffs, 712-224-4692 Sioux City, 712-732-4197 Storm Lake

Tom Feeney (Florida) 386-756-9798 Port Orange, 407-208-1106 Orlando,
321-264-6113 Titusville

Trent Franks (Arizona) 623-776-7911 Glendale

Louie Gohmert (Texas) 866-535-6302 Lufkin/Marshall/Nagadoches,
903-236-8597 Longview, 903-561-6349 Tyler

Jim Jordan (Ohio) 419-522-5757 Mansfield, 419-999-6455 Lima, 419-423-3210
Findlay

Supreme Court Justices

Chief Justice John Roberts

Associate Justices:

Samuel A. Alito
Clarence Thomas
Antonin Scalia
Anthony M. Kennedy
David H. Souter
John Paul Stevens
Stephen G. Breyer
Ruth Bader Ginsberg


Want another four years of GW Bush?

Many probably wonder if he is even human, let alone a citizen of the U.S.A.

It will be many years before a Republican can overcome the crap that has
been dumped on us in the last eight years.
In other words, I suggest any Republican with the intention of running for
any office, think again, and get a job at a fast food place where they just
might be able to handle the job.


  #5  
Old December 2nd 08, 10:57 AM posted to alt.politics.bush,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.radio.broadcasting,rec.collecting.coins,alt.politics.democrats
bushlyed
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Default Obama's Birth Certificate is Fake

On Dec 2, 2:11*am, "Janet Porter" wrote:
The media bought it. The voters bought it. And now some in Congress are
resisting the idea of congressional hearings because they believe that
Barack Obama's "birth certificate" has been posted online.

Not so.

What was posted was not a birth certificate, but something that resembles a
"Certification of Live Birth" or COLB, which, even if authentic, does not
prove "natural born" U.S. citizenship. You see, in Hawaii, a Certification
of Live Birth is issued within a year of a child's birth to those who
register a birth abroad or one that takes place outside a hospital.

It's Rathergate all over again with more amiss than a 1970s Selectric
typewriter. But before I tell you what the experts found, let me ask you a
few questions:

If you were a natural born American citizen and had it within your means to
quiet all the lawsuits and questions with proof, would you do it?

If you were a natural born American citizen, would you spend thousands of
dollars to fight the legal cases against you, or would you simply answer the
legitimate question of whether you meet the constitutional requirements for
office?

If you were a natural born American citizen, would you forge a document
called a "Certification of Live Birth" and tell the public it was a real
"birth certificate"?
If someone were to violate the law by manufacturing a forgery in order trick
the public, would that be enough evidence for members of Congress to conduct
hearings and for a court to issue an order for the critical records,
including the original long-form birth certificate (signed by the doctor) to
ensure that the U.S. constitutional requirements for office were not
violated? After all, Congress is sworn to uphold and defend that
Constitution, and the justices on the U.S. Supreme Court are "guardians" of
the Constitution. That's their job, isn't it?



Supreme Court Justices

Chief Justice John Roberts

Associate Justices:

Samuel A. Alito
Clarence Thomas
Antonin Scalia
Anthony M. Kennedy
David H. Souter
John Paul Stevens
Stephen G. Breyer
Ruth Bader Ginsberg


Yeah, okay, why not just flood these people with emails and letters
and phone calls.

That would **** them off even more.

I can't wait until the Supreme Court rejects all these bogus stupid
claims about Obama not being a US citizen.

A lot of these people are so eloquent, they will tell the idiots
filing all these frivolous lawsuits to go **** themselves in the most
charming terms.

  #6  
Old December 2nd 08, 01:10 PM posted to alt.politics.bush,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.radio.broadcasting,rec.collecting.coins,alt.politics.democrats
KStahl
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Default Obama's Birth Certificate is Fake

Janet Porter wrote:

The media bought it. The voters bought it. And now some in Congress are
resisting the idea of congressional hearings because they believe that
Barack Obama's "birth certificate" has been posted online.

Not so.

What was posted was not a birth certificate, but something that
resembles a "Certification of Live Birth" or COLB, which, even if
authentic, does not prove "natural born" U.S. citizenship. You see, in
Hawaii, a Certification of Live Birth is issued within a year of a
child's birth to those who register a birth abroad or one that takes
place outside a hospital.

It's Rathergate all over again with more amiss than a 1970s Selectric
typewriter. But before I tell you what the experts found, let me ask you
a few questions:

If you were a natural born American citizen and had it within your means
to quiet all the lawsuits and questions with proof, would you do it?


If you were a natural born American citizen, would you spend thousands
of dollars to fight the legal cases against you, or would you simply
answer the legitimate question of whether you meet the constitutional
requirements for office?


If you were a natural born American citizen, would you forge a document
called a "Certification of Live Birth" and tell the public it was a real
"birth certificate"?
If someone were to violate the law by manufacturing a forgery in order
trick the public, would that be enough evidence for members of Congress
to conduct hearings and for a court to issue an order for the critical
records, including the original long-form birth certificate (signed by
the doctor) to ensure that the U.S. constitutional requirements for
office were not violated? After all, Congress is sworn to uphold and
defend that Constitution, and the justices on the U.S. Supreme Court are
"guardians" of the Constitution. That's their job, isn't it?

Ron Polarik, who holds a Ph.D. in Instructional Media and specializes in
computer graphics with over 20 years experience with computers, printers
and typewriters, has come forth with more definitive evidence than the
word processor that tried to simulate a 1970s Selectric typewriter.

Polarik has submitted a signed affidavit and has now released his
findings on video at www.ObamaForgery.com with his identity masked and
voice altered to guard against the carrying out of threats, which he has
already received.


The Summary: The Certificate of Live Birth documents posted on Mr.
Obama's website www.fightthesmears.com, Daily Kos (a pro-Obama blog) and
factcheck.org, (a pro-Obama political research group), were found to be
altered and forged.

The problem of the pixels: When you have a green patterned document such
as this, there should be a lot of green pixels from the background
showing up between the letters that appear on the certification. But in
this case, instead of green pixels, there are white and grey pixels
between the letters, which result when you replace existing text with
other text.


There is no second fold line. The pictures show two folds - necessary to
fit any COLB into an envelope for mailing, but the document itself shows
only one fold. This is another indication of document alteration.


There's a blurred border. The border has a lower resolution than the
rest of the document, which is another indication that it has been altered.


The border is one that is used in 2007 COLBs. As a security measure,
Hawaii changes their borders every year. This is when the Obama campaign
claims the certificate was obtained. That is fine except for the problem
that .


The seal and signature stamp are from a 2008 COLB. As revealed by a
process called edging, the Hawaiian seal and signature stamp on the back
of the document are revealed to be from the wrong year!
Like with Rathergate, when you're creating documents, make sure you use
only a typewriter that was invented at the time you report the document
was manufactured. When posting a "Certification of Live Birth," make
sure you "borrow" only from documents used in the same year!

Be sure to sign the petition demanding evidence of Barack Obama's
constitutional qualifications.

But beyond the birth certificate issue, there's the matter that Obama
traveled to Indonesia, Pakistan, Southern India and Kenya in 1981. He
said he went to Indonesia to see his mother. This seemed plausible,
except for the fact that his mother returned to Hawaii in August of 1980
to file for a divorce from her second husband, Lolo Soetoro. Unless she
went back to pal around with the man she divorced, she wasn't there at
the time of Obama's visit.

There's another problem. No record of Obama holding an American passport
prior to the one he received once becoming a U.S. senator has been
found. If he traveled to Pakistan with an American passport, he wouldn't
have been allowed in - since Pakistan was in turmoil in 1981 and under
martial law. It was also on the State Department's travel ban list for
U.S. citizens.

If he couldn't get into Pakistan with a U.S. passport, perhaps he went
there with an Indonesian passport. But the only way you can get one of
those is if you are an Indonesian citizen.

That's quite possible since under Indonesian law, when a male
acknowledges a child as his son, it deems the son - in this case Obama -
to be an Indonesian state citizen, which was also recorded by Obama's
school record.

So, if he didn't go to Indonesia in 1981 to visit mom (who had returned
to Hawaii by then), might it have something to do with the fact that
Indonesian passports expire every five years and it was time for renewal?

Why does that matter?

If Obama would have been a U.S. citizen, 8 USC §1481(a)(2) provides loss
of nationality by native born citizens upon "taking an oath or making an
affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state
... after having attained the age of eighteen years," in violation of 8
U.S.C. §1401(a)(1). Simply put, since Indonesia did not allow for dual
citizenship, if Obama got that passport in 1981, when he was 20 years
old, he effectively renounced any U.S. citizenship he may have had.

So, if the experts are right, Obama forged a Certification of Live Birth
to fool America. In addition to the automatic Indonesian citizenship
granted to a child acknowledged as a "son" by an Indonesian male
citizen, and the Indonesian citizenship listed in Obama's school
records, Obama then traveled to a place where Americans weren't allowed
to go, but citizens of Indonesia were. If he obtained an Indonesian
passport on his trip in 1981, he effectively renounced any American
citizenship he may have had and cannot serve as president (or "rule" as
president, as members of his campaign have stated). These are serious
questions that must have answers.

If Obama gets into office without verification that he has met the
requirements of the U.S. Constitution, if you care about life, liberty
or the family, you're going to have to make hundreds of calls to try and
fight an agenda that seeks to silence you.

There is a way to help prevent this. Our founders sacrificed their
lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor. I'm asking you to do three
things.

Fast and pray for all the hidden things to come to light.


Call the Republican members of the House Judiciary Committee - in their
district offices while they're home this week for Thanksgiving. Ask them
to "Please hold congressional hearings to investigate whether Barack
Obama meets the basic constitutional requirements for the highest office
of the land."


Write a letter to the nine Justices of the United States Supreme Court
(names are listed below) and put them in a FedEx (or other overnight)
envelope to:
U.S. Supreme Court
1 First Street, N.E
Washington, D.C. 20543

Our Constitution matters and defending it is going to take an outcry
from the public. The electors vote on Dec. 15. The numbers are below and
your immediate action is critically needed right now. Do it before
defending our liberties costs a lot more than making some phone calls
and writing a few letters.

The Republican House Judiciary members: Call them at 202-225-3121, AND
most importantly reach them in their district offices:

Lamar Smith (Texas), ranking member, critical in any hearings:
512-306-0439 Austin, 830-896-0154 Kerrville, and 210-821-5024 San Antonio.

James Sensenbrenner (Wisconsin) 800-242-1119 or 262-784-1111 Brookfield

Howard Coble (North Carolina) 336-333-5005 Greensboro, 336-626-3060
Asheboro, 336-886-5106 High Point, 226-229-0159 Graham, 704-209-0426
Granite Quarry

Elton Gallegly (California) 800-423-0023 or 805-497-2224 Thousand Oaks,
805-686-2525 Solvang

Bob Goodlatte (Virginia) 540-432-2391 Harrisonburg, 434-845-8306
Lynchburg, 540-857-2672 Roanoke, and 540-885-3861 Staunton

Steve Chabot (Ohio) 513-684-2723 Cincinnati

Dan Lungren (California) 916-859-9906 Gold River

Chris Cannon (Utah) 800-571-2971 Provo, 801-569-5125 West Jordan

Ric Keller (Florida) 407-872-1962 Orlando, 888-642-1211 Eustis,
888-642-1211 Ocala

Darrell Issa (California) 951-693-2447 Temecula, 760-599-5000 San Diego

Mike Pence (Indiana) 765-640-2919 Anderson, 765-962-2883 Richmond,
765-747-5566 Muncie

Randy Forbes (Virginia) 757-382-0080 Chesapeake, 804-526-4969 Colonial
Heights, 434-634-5575 Emporia

Steve King (Iowa) 641-782-2495 Creston, 712-580-7754 Spencer,
712-325-1404 Council Bluffs, 712-224-4692 Sioux City, 712-732-4197 Storm
Lake

Tom Feeney (Florida) 386-756-9798 Port Orange, 407-208-1106 Orlando,
321-264-6113 Titusville

Trent Franks (Arizona) 623-776-7911 Glendale

Louie Gohmert (Texas) 866-535-6302 Lufkin/Marshall/Nagadoches,
903-236-8597 Longview, 903-561-6349 Tyler

Jim Jordan (Ohio) 419-522-5757 Mansfield, 419-999-6455 Lima,
419-423-3210 Findlay

Supreme Court Justices

Chief Justice John Roberts

Associate Justices:

Samuel A. Alito
Clarence Thomas
Antonin Scalia
Anthony M. Kennedy
David H. Souter
John Paul Stevens
Stephen G. Breyer
Ruth Bader Ginsberg



Horse = dead.

You are clearly a putz.
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Old December 2nd 08, 02:05 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
Bruce Remick
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"Janet Porter" wrote in message
...
The media bought it. The voters bought it. And now some in Congress are
resisting the idea of congressional hearings because they believe that
Barack Obama's "birth certificate" has been posted online.

Not so.


Hmmmm. Now that you mention it, I don't recall having seen Bush's birth
certificate either. This had been No. 1 on voter concern lists, too.
Could we possibly negate his last eight years? Could he have actually been
born in Australia?


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Old December 2nd 08, 03:34 PM posted to alt.politics.bush,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.radio.broadcasting,rec.collecting.coins,alt.politics.democrats
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"Janet Porter" wrote in message
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Burn a cross tonight and pray to JAY-sus, then donate your trailer to the
Bush family.


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Old December 2nd 08, 04:42 PM posted to alt.politics.bush,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.radio.broadcasting,rec.collecting.coins,alt.politics.democrats
Robert Wilson
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Default Obama's Birth Certificate is Fake

Chris Darwin wrote:
Barack Obama is our new president

the dems won 20+ in the house and 6+ in the Senate

the repugs got their asses kicked two elections in a row.

and your phony bogus hunt for a birth certificate isn't going to
change that

GET OVER IT, OBAMA IS PRESIDENT

Speaking as a Brit, I really hope you get a better deal from obama. GW
was a complete liability from were we Brits could see. I was was
horrifed when he was given another four years to ruin your country.

How do you guys see the future now?

Rob.
  #10  
Old December 2nd 08, 05:05 PM posted to alt.politics.bush,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.radio.broadcasting,rec.collecting.coins,alt.politics.democrats
PC[_10_]
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Default Obama's Birth Certificate is Fake

On Dec 2, 1:11*am, "Janet Porter" wrote:
The media bought it. The voters bought it. And now some in Congress are
resisting the idea of congressional hearings because they believe that
Barack Obama's "birth certificate" has been posted online.


Barrack Obama is the POTUS. He might even be a good one. I suggest
you get over it.
 




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