April 4 2009 Big Surpirse on Obama's False Birth Certificate

On Apr 5, 6:35*am, Alric Knebel wrote:
Wilmar18 wrote:
I am in Iowa and believe you me...When Franklin, Jefferson et all wrote the
Constitution, nothing in history indicates that there intentions were to
bestoy
rights to homosexual/lesbian unions blessed by any secular jurisdiction
as part
of our Constitutional rights. Nor did anyone believe in it for the Bill
of Rights.
Legitamizing such Unions is inappropriate legally and the social
restructuring of
our society by liberal Justices is another example of the compromising
of our
historical values and rights.

They also didn't believe blacks and women should have the right to vote.

Actually it goes far beyond that. Their original prerequisite for
voting was:

You had to be White Male.
You had to be a Protestant. (Being a Catholic was an automatic
disqualification)
You had to be Land Owner.
You had to be free of any debt.

And that's it. Notice citizenship was not a requirement.

* *You can't look to the Founding Fathers for guidance in everything.
They were men of their times.

True that.

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Alric Knebel

NoGoals wrote:
Actually it goes far beyond that. Their original prerequisite for
voting was:

You had to be White Male.
You had to be a Protestant. (Being a Catholic was an automatic
disqualification)
You had to be Land Owner.
You had to be free of any debt.
Given an era when women didnt have birth control and were busy raising
lotsa kids, and everyone else was uneducated, reasonable. Bear in mind,
at the time, all Catholic cultures had tyrannic governments, and the
Founding Farmers were all acutely aware of popes dabbling in politics.

They also read where Gibbon pointed out how the Roman republic was
supported by the sons of landowners in the legions who felt they had an
investment in their civil and property rights to protect.... and how,
after Crassus' manipulation of the grain market bankrupted the farmers,
the legions came to be manned by men whose only interest was in their
military careers.

Without a perceived investment to protect, the masses become interested
only in what we now call 'entitlements'. The US government promoted home
ownership to create that sense of investment, but that has always been a
sham since the home was not an income generating asset like a farm.

And we see today how debt destabilizes the system.