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WARNING: Noodler's Inks [A Big Thanks!]
My experience with Noodler's ink is not extensive. I've used four colours in several pens. My own experience is that Noodler's ink is much less prone to drying out and "gumming up" than other inks I've used, especially Private Reserve which comes in lovely colours but can be a real problem to clean out of a pen and will "gum up" excessively, in my experience. One of the claims for Noodler's inks was that it would wash easily out of pens. I find this to be true and a great advantage for those (aka me) of us who change ink colours fairly often and who probably wash more ink down the sink than we apply to paper. Living in the Pacific Northwest where it rains occasionally, I appreciate the waterproof versions of Noodlers. The permanence is nice, I suppose. I looked at the messages written in my senior year yearbook and the ones written with Shaeffer blue are fading. I know it was Shaeffer blue because that was the ink the school system provided for us to fill our Esterbrooks. We all know fountain pens have their own eccentricities. One of my Parker 51's can sit in a drawer for months and write when it touches the paper. Another dries out in a couple of days. So while anecdotal experience is not valueless, it must be viewed with reservation. J. L. Jones On Wed, 31 May 2006 18:07:16 -0400, "-Moonstone-" wrote: "Semolina Pilchard" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 30 May 2006 11:05:05 -0400, Chuck Swisher wrote: I didn't refer to your post specifically. Look at the whole thread. Your reply was reasonable and practical. Perhaps Mr. ****-magnet may have provided such proof had he not been called a troll and verbally bludgeoned by the Noodlers advocates. That's true of any ink, or indeed any manufactured article. Can we expect to see the group entirely taken over by manufacturers and retailers of ink, pens and papers or will the special pleading be confined to Noodlers? I've said nothing about the ink, nor do I intend to. My comment was about the rush to condemn the OP and extol the virtues of the ink. One may be forgiven for suspecting the mob's motives when presented with such an unedifying spectacle. -- Sem Thank you for going to bat for me Sem. I also thank Calvin for his bitter/sweet frankness. In this climate, I know it can be difficult for people to express "unpopular" ideas particularly if they involve certain products. All along I made every attempt to remain open-minded, there were times when I was even thinking and expressing positive thoughts about the ink. I had 2 pens that dried-out and one had a small clogg. This had never occurred before until I changed inks. Even the nothing was ruined. At about the same time, a "professional pen expert" reported to me that a Pelican what permanently ruined by Noodler's ink and I had just purchased a Pelican. From the personal experience commensurate with "professional advice" I had warning me against Noodler's and Pelicans, I feel I was acting in good faith. I also want to thank Harry, Pam, Gordon, Fred, Robert, Curtis, and BL. If I left anyone out, it was an oversight and I apologize. As someone else said, "there are good people in there" and all you guys were very helpful to me. All I was doing was sharing/seeking information and I t rust that we were all helpful to one another. Calvin, your advice played a major roll in my decision to return the Pelly for non-ink-related reasons. As for Tetra, you have a catty attitude an portray a personality that Calvin expressed in his post. Your mention of a crapper reminds me, your posts are already going into a virtual crapper called a filter. Terry, I'm sorry that you were so overwelmed by someone's juvenile handle that the distraction precluded you from offering any real help. Do you have ADD or something? As for you Billtx calling me a troll, you jumped the gun didn't you? Borked; calling me a fear monger. If I have had that affect on you, please understand that I wasn't trying to scare you or anyone. Borked, you based your unwarranted misgivings on the fact that I didn't name the person that's Pelly was ruined by. Although under no obligation, it was still hard for me to give up the name of the person and his professional opinion that his pen was ruined. I regret having to give good info that many of you did not deserve to here. I called your bluff but who is really hurt as the result of it. Be careful. The next can of worms you force opened may hit you closer to home. Chuck, shame on you for judging my credibility based on what I could prove. After successfully cleaning my pens without damage, you know I couldn't offer any proof of anything yet your perception of me was based on this proof. I did report the pen-expert that warned me of your ink. I assume that you and he are/were friends and he doesn't have a competing ink factory tucked away somewhere goes he? I've never had ill-dealings with you, I don't know you nor had I have had anything against you and the success of your business or the lack thereof has no impact on me one way or another. Still, your general attitude wasn't becoming of a successful businessman. If my postings stressed you out to the point that you apparently reached, perhaps you should find a new "lower keyed" venture to involve yourself. As a result of all this, I have learned that it is a good rule-of-thumb to at least perform minimal maintenance on all all pens without regard to ink, particularly if I am going to use rich inks like Noodler's. For many years I have gotten away with leaving ink in my pen while inactive for 4 or 5 months and only purging with water when changing inks. This pen was the exception. From this point on, all pens are going to be rinsed will water at least every 4-6 weeks. BTW, I gave all my inks the test to see which one(s) kept a coating on the nib after hearing that inks that did not bead on the nib also leaves a coating on the inside (similar to cholestrol and blood vessel walls.) I won't say which one brand on hand failed the test nor what brands were on hand. I'm not even sure if this "test" is really reliable. This merits further investigation. Thank you all for ready through this wordy and probably boring posting. -Moonstone- (formerly S. Magnet) |
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WARNING: Noodler's Inks [A Big Thanks!]
On Sun, 2 Jul 2006 14:32:41 -0500, J. L. Jones wrote
(in article ): My experience with Noodler's ink is not extensive. I've used four colours in several pens. My own experience is that Noodler's ink is much less prone to drying out and "gumming up" than other inks I've used, especially Private Reserve which comes in lovely colours but can be a real problem to clean out of a pen and will "gum up" excessively, in my experience. One of the claims for Noodler's inks was that it would wash easily out of pens. I find this to be true and a great advantage for those (aka me) of us who change ink colours fairly often and who probably wash more ink down the sink than we apply to paper. Living in the Pacific Northwest where it rains occasionally, I appreciate the waterproof versions of Noodlers. The permanence is nice, I suppose. I looked at the messages written in my senior year yearbook and the ones written with Shaeffer blue are fading. I know it was Shaeffer blue because that was the ink the school system provided for us to fill our Esterbrooks. We all know fountain pens have their own eccentricities. One of my Parker 51's can sit in a drawer for months and write when it touches the paper. Another dries out in a couple of days. So while anecdotal experience is not valueless, it must be viewed with reservation. Exactly, with regard to pens having their eccentricities, I recently picked up a bottle of Noodler's Fox red, nice color, but my Waterman 100 Year pen does not like it, it skips a lot unless I press down more than I should. On the other hand Noodler's Black in it is near perfect, I have yet to try Hunter's Green in it, or my new bottle of Legal Lapis. On the other, other hand I just filled my newly bought Sheaffer Cadet with the Fox and it is BEAUTIFUL, this pen loves it. The older Cadet likes the Hunter Green and Black, have tried both it in. I haven't even opened the Legal Lapis yet, I expect to be having some fun testing each color in each pen over the next few months and finding out which one likes which inks best. -- Harry F. Leopold aa #2076 AA/Vet #4 The Prints of Darkness (remove gene to email) Liaison between: EAC-Evil Atheist Conspiracy CEA-Conspiracy of Evil Atheists ACE-Atheist Conspiracy of Evil. AEC-Atheist Evil Conspiracy CAE-Conspiracy of Atheists of Evil ECA-Evil Conspiracy of Atheists and DAC-Dangerous Amish Conspiracy |
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WARNING: Noodler's Inks [A Big Thanks!]
In article , J. L. Jones wrote:
My experience with Noodler's ink is not extensive. I've used four colours in several pens. My own experience is that Noodler's ink is much less prone to drying out and "gumming up" than other inks I've used, especially Private Reserve which comes in lovely colours but this is my experience with PR as well. & Noodler is less likely to gum up despite the saturated color. One of the claims for Noodler's inks was that it would wash easily out of pens. I find this to be true and a great strange. i find Noodler hard to wash completely clean. because it's so highly pigmented. (but i've only used like 3 or 4 colors.) bye now, I hated the sunsets of whatever colour, I hated its beauty and its magic and the secret I would never know. I hated its indifference and the cruelty which was part of its loveliness. --- Jean Rhys, Wide Sargossa Sea |
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WARNING: Noodler's Inks [A Big Thanks!]
On Mon, 3 Jul 2006 15:09:17 -0400, "~*Thespius*~" wrote: I got a fontain pen and bottle of noodlers ink for christmas. Haven't used a fountain pen in years but I filled it up and did the month's bills before letting it rest in the drawer for a month forgotten. The pen was clogged so I do know that noddler's claim by some to have the attributes of holy water is malarky. I say who cares. Am happy to return to my trusted PB. What does this have to do with anything, pro or con? And holy water makes for a wet nib. And for a positive comment or two, finally took the instructions given long ago and went to Pen Haven in Kensington, MD. They did their magic on three nibs and I have $ 700 plus worth of pens now working exactly the way I always wanted them to. Since they didn't charge for the work done, I bought a rocker blotter to lessen the guilt. And a Shaeffer from the 30s, but that had nothing to do with guilt. Guess I know where any gift money's going for awhile. Last week I didn't need anymore pens. Now there is that snorkel and the touchdown and the retracted nib and the flexible nib... And I learned that if you have a place like Pen Haven within a reasonable drive, don't sit around bemoaning how a pen or two is writing (or not writing). Go on down to the guys with the black thumbs and the experience... Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... |
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