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Old July 5th 05, 06:03 PM
twillers
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I'm very much a novice when it comes to stamps, and stamp collecting. I
have a question about cover (envelope) sizes. My father had a Scott
stamp book that was from the late 1930's. Among the stamps there were
two canceled Airmail covers dated May 31, 1930. They are both Scott UC1,
and I can easily see the watermark 28 on one of envelopes. My problem is
I can't figure out which size envelope I have. The 2005, "Scott
Specialized Catalogue" makes reference to three different size envelopes
(#5, #8, and #13). Thinking logically, I would think the #5 is the
smallest and #13 would be the largest. From what I can tell from the
Web, logic is thrown out the window. I can not find any definitive
information about the dimensions of the envelopes, or how the sizes are
determined. From pictures I have found from various online auctions, it
appears that the size 5, and size 13 are the same size. It seems the
size 8 is longer then the others. Is there a place that gives this type
of information. Any help in this matter will be greatly appreciated.

Regards, twillers
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Old July 5th 05, 06:50 PM
Dave Kent
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I'm not an expert, but....
The envelope industry is annoying because they use the same size
numbers for different standards. For example, a Number 8 white paper
envelope is very different from a Number 8 manila clasp envelope.
However, for our purposes (ordinary white mailing envelopes), the size
number is the approximate width of the envelope in inches. The most
common "small" envelope today is a 6 3/4, which is about 6 3/4 inches
wide. The "legal" or "business" size is a number 10, and it's about ten
inches wide (actually about 9 1/2). The same would apply to government
stamped envelopes of some years ago -- a #5 is five inches
(approximately) wide, a #8 is 8 inches, and a #13 is huge, more than a
foot wide.

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Old July 6th 05, 12:23 AM
Blair (TC)
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Here you go Twillers:

You may wish to save this for reference.

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North American Standard Envelope Sizes.
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Commercial Sizes (in inches)

#5 3 1/16 x 5 1/2
#6 3 3/8 x 6
#6 1/4 3 1/2 x 6
#6 1/2 3 9/16 x 6 1/2
#6 3/4 3 5/8 x 6 1/2
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Official sizes (in inches)

#7 3 3/4 x 6 3/4
#7 1/2 3 3/4 x 7 5/8
#7 3/4 aka Monarch 3 7/8 x 7 1/2
#8 5/8 aka check 3 5/8 x 8 5/8
#9 aka Slimline 3 7/8 x 8 7/8
#10 4 1/8 x 9 1/2
#10 1/2 4 1/2 x 9 1/2
#11 4 1/2 x 10 3/8
#12 4 3/4 x 11
#14 5 x 11 1/2
#16 6 x 12
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Specialty Size (in inches)

A-1 3 5/8 x 5 1/8
A-2 4 3/8 x 5 3/4
A-6 4 3/4 x 6 1/2
A-7 5 1/4 x 7 1/4
A-7 3/4 3 7/8 x 7 1/2
A-8 5 1/2 x 8 1/8
A-9 5 3/4 x 8 3/4
9 1/2 9 x 12
A-10 6 x 9 1/2
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Booklet or Open Side size (in inches)

#3 4 3/4 x 6 1/2
#5 5 1/2 x 8 1/2
#6 5 3/4 x 8 7/8
#6 1/2 6 x 9
#7 6 1/4 x 9 5/8
#7 1/4 7 x 10
#8 8 x 11 1/8
#9 8 3/4 x 11 1/2
#10 9 1/2 x 12 5/8
#13 10 x 13
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(more sizes exist)

I hope that this is helpful to you.

Blair Stannard
2005 July 05

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Old July 6th 05, 04:59 AM
twillers
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Dave Kent wrote:

I'm not an expert, but....
The envelope industry is annoying because they use the same size
numbers for different standards. For example, a Number 8 white paper
envelope is very different from a Number 8 manila clasp envelope.
However, for our purposes (ordinary white mailing envelopes), the size
number is the approximate width of the envelope in inches. The most
common "small" envelope today is a 6 3/4, which is about 6 3/4 inches
wide. The "legal" or "business" size is a number 10, and it's about ten
inches wide (actually about 9 1/2). The same would apply to government
stamped envelopes of some years ago -- a #5 is five inches
(approximately) wide, a #8 is 8 inches, and a #13 is huge, more than a
foot wide.

Dave,
Thank you very much for the reply. I was under the impression that
was the way the sizing worked also. After I posted my question I came
across a website that gave me the answer I was looking for. The website
is "www.precancels.com/envelopes/id_envs.htm" I was surprised at the
answer. Below is a section from the webpage. I seems that up until at
least Dec. 1949 the #8 envelope as the largest.

Again thank for the reply, Tom

Envelope Size:

Government issued precanceled envelopes only came in 4 sizes:
Size 5 89 mm x 160 mm
Size 6 3/4 92 mm x 165 mm
Size 8 (10) 105 mm x 241 mm
Size 13 98 mm x 171 mm
 




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