StarArchive charging now

So my suggestion is for those of you contbuting to the site to NOT
contribute. They use your information to now charge.

Though I agree having and maintaining a site is costly, they could
have opted for a password driven site with a donation link and to
join, people would have to make a donation or contribute by giving
information. This way those just leaching could not leach and if they
did, have to pay at least while those who contribute GOOD working
NEW addresses not be punished by paying.

Please do not give them anymore information free. If they want the
information from you, make them pay in return.

This is NOT to dismiss all this site has given for a couple years.
They did do ok and that was nice and all... but they are essentially
charging for information YOU GAVE them.

Stop the insanity of everyone making a buck and don't pay them.

I would consider starting a site such as theirs free, but I don't
condone people who leach. So maybe I'll come up with something that
will be free.... depends. Sounds like work I may not be able to keep
up. I started this and have a hundred or so addresses, but have never
posted them. Maybe we as a community could consider such and
endeavor, while all maintaining it somehow, working together.
Opinions?

WHAT?????

I haven't been able to get it to load, all I get is "an error ocurred
while prosessing this directive"???

What Gives???

Peace,
Paul

Well, I finally got it to load. Clean out your browser cache!

I might have to subcribe AFTER my 14 days free!

Peace,
Paul

dahoov2 wrote:

So my suggestion is for those of you contbuting to the site to NOT
contribute. They use your information to now charge.

Though I agree having and maintaining a site is costly, they could
have opted for a password driven site with a donation link and to
join, people would have to make a donation or contribute by giving
information. This way those just leaching could not leach and if they
did, have to pay at least while those who contribute GOOD working
NEW addresses not be punished by paying.

Please do not give them anymore information free. If they want the
information from you, make them pay in return.

This is NOT to dismiss all this site has given for a couple years.
They did do ok and that was nice and all... but they are essentially
charging for information YOU GAVE them.

Stop the insanity of everyone making a buck and don't pay them.

I would consider starting a site such as theirs free, but I don't
condone people who leach. So maybe I'll come up with something that
will be free.... depends. Sounds like work I may not be able to keep
up. I started this and have a hundred or so addresses, but have never
posted them. Maybe we as a community could consider such and
endeavor, while all maintaining it somehow, working together.
Opinions?

Personally, I have no problems with them charging. They tried the
donation route and it did not work. They tried advertisements and it
did not work. Making people donate an address to get addresses will
just increase the number of bogus addresses on the site. If you do the
math, you will see that a one year subscription comes out to about $2.90
per month. That's not that much.

It was either charge for access or take the site down. I think there
would have been a lot more people ****ed off if the site was taken down.

Keith
http://www.keithjakubowski.com/autographs

It does not cost THAT much to have one's own domanin and site. This
is profit motivated if there ever was one.

Out of curisotity , do you think people will contribute to the site as
before? And there was bogus information on there already. I don't
think that'll increase. Most people are honest and I think the level
of dishonest ones will be close to the same.

But I do agree it does cost to have a site. I've had this one I have
now for 4 years or so. It has no pop ups, ads etc. I provide loads
of inforamtion free and do it as a hobby. However, when time does
come to expand where I have to pay for more storage, then I may have
to resort to something. Right now It's probably gonna be removing
content. To have a site for years and then to one day just "charge"
is like duping the public. Not that I really ever got anything off SA
anyway. To me, most of it seems outdated and common sense to find.
There were a few that I have used, but at this point, not enough to
make me pay.

I liked Celebrity addresses (who advertised on here) for a trial
anyway. I got to see what they had and submit names for THEM to
research. They did find Three for me, but one was an RTS I knew and
one is a non signer. I determined it was not enough to keep
interested in paying at this point. HOWEVER I would amass a list of
ones I want and join for a while after they have found the ones I
need. I prefer a pay site that will do research after I've tried my
best. Their research is a well placed phone call to agencies or Sag
I'd imagine and that's more worth it to me to know the inforamtion is
obtained this way and is FRESH.

If you guys want, I'll reserch for you and you pay me a dollar for
every signature it yeilds ya. LOL
Then at least you'll know you're not paying for fake addresses, RTS's
and will only pay if you get something...

Anyway Keith, sorry they didn't contribute to your site. I have taken
a couple images off there (two I think) but you used one I made myself
on there so since that took me hours and you didn't tell me you were
using it for your site, I considered I paid you that way. So I did
not contribute as well. But I am sure you used something off my site
free too and I didn't get reimbursed. That's the way sites should be.
If everything goes pay, there's no joy left is all I am saying!



On 29 Sep 2003 13:08:05 -0500, "Keith A. Jakubowski"
wrote:

dahoov2 wrote:

So my suggestion is for those of you contbuting to the site to NOT
contribute. They use your information to now charge.

Though I agree having and maintaining a site is costly, they could
have opted for a password driven site with a donation link and to
join, people would have to make a donation or contribute by giving
information. This way those just leaching could not leach and if they
did, have to pay at least while those who contribute GOOD working
NEW addresses not be punished by paying.

Please do not give them anymore information free. If they want the
information from you, make them pay in return.

This is NOT to dismiss all this site has given for a couple years.
They did do ok and that was nice and all... but they are essentially
charging for information YOU GAVE them.

Stop the insanity of everyone making a buck and don't pay them.

I would consider starting a site such as theirs free, but I don't
condone people who leach. So maybe I'll come up with something that
will be free.... depends. Sounds like work I may not be able to keep
up. I started this and have a hundred or so addresses, but have never
posted them. Maybe we as a community could consider such and
endeavor, while all maintaining it somehow, working together.
Opinions?

Personally, I have no problems with them charging. They tried the
donation route and it did not work. They tried advertisements and it
did not work. Making people donate an address to get addresses will
just increase the number of bogus addresses on the site. If you do the
math, you will see that a one year subscription comes out to about $2.90
per month. That's not that much.

It was either charge for access or take the site down. I think there
would have been a lot more people ****ed off if the site was taken down.

Keith
http://www.keithjakubowski.com/autographs

dahoov2 wrote:

Anyway Keith, sorry they didn't contribute to your site. I have taken
a couple images off there (two I think) but you used one I made myself
on there so since that took me hours and you didn't tell me you were
using it for your site, I considered I paid you that way. So I did

You lost me here. What image did you make that I am using for my site?

Keith

The Jessica Alba one. The image was actually from Target corporation
and was in part of an article in one of their ad books. I spent
about two hours plus removing words from her and the background and
other stuff to get a plain usable image. So I figured I'd borrow a
couple images and not feel too bad!


On 29 Sep 2003 13:35:04 -0500, "Keith A. Jakubowski"
wrote:

dahoov2 wrote:

Anyway Keith, sorry they didn't contribute to your site. I have taken
a couple images off there (two I think) but you used one I made myself
on there so since that took me hours and you didn't tell me you were
using it for your site, I considered I paid you that way. So I did

You lost me here. What image did you make that I am using for my site?

Keith

Charging itself I dont have a problem with...but what about all those
out there who dont have a credit card??? That screws us up big time...
I emailed them about excepting money orders and I am still waiting to
hear from them....
The other problem is Sa has crashed my computer twice while trying to
access the page...And I know at 15 others who have had the same problem.

Keith A. Jakubowski wrote:
dahoov2 wrote:

So my suggestion is for those of you contbuting to the site to NOT
contribute. They use your information to now charge.

Though I agree having and maintaining a site is costly, they could
have opted for a password driven site with a donation link and to
join, people would have to make a donation or contribute by giving
information. This way those just leaching could not leach and if they
did, have to pay at least while those who contribute GOOD working
NEW addresses not be punished by paying.

Please do not give them anymore information free. If they want the
information from you, make them pay in return.

This is NOT to dismiss all this site has given for a couple years.
They did do ok and that was nice and all... but they are essentially
charging for information YOU GAVE them.

Stop the insanity of everyone making a buck and don't pay them.

I would consider starting a site such as theirs free, but I don't
condone people who leach. So maybe I'll come up with something that
will be free.... depends. Sounds like work I may not be able to keep
up. I started this and have a hundred or so addresses, but have never
posted them. Maybe we as a community could consider such and
endeavor, while all maintaining it somehow, working together.
Opinions?


Personally, I have no problems with them charging. They tried the
donation route and it did not work. They tried advertisements and it
did not work. Making people donate an address to get addresses will
just increase the number of bogus addresses on the site. If you do the
math, you will see that a one year subscription comes out to about $2.90
per month. That's not that much.

It was either charge for access or take the site down. I think there
would have been a lot more people ****ed off if the site was taken down.

Keith
http://www.keithjakubowski.com/autographs