New "dollar" coin(s)

Recalling that dollars, pounds, marks, etc. were defined originally as
one twentieth of an ounce of gold (they were, weren't they?), I put the
word "dollar" (backed by nothing but the fact that the IRS will accept
such "dollars" as payment in taxes) in quotation marks.

And the reason for the parenthetical "s" is that the mint's thinking in
terms of many, many dollar coins, one for each el presidente:
http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/index.cfm?flash=yes.

The good news is the reverse design: Lady Liberty herself
(http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/index.cfm?action=reverse).
(Tho' I wonder if the back of the Stainmaker dollar coin will be of the
Lewinsky pig.)

Finally, the "edge-incused" inscriptions
(http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/index.cfm?action=EdgeIncused)
will be of interest to long-time coin collectors like myself: I've only
seen such on, I think, a couple of Greek coins I have.

Edge-incused inscriptions, of course, can't really be displayed, and
that's going to be a pain to collectors of these dollar coins because
the date and mint mark are going to be "edge-incused" (along with "IN
GOD WE TRUST" and "E. PLURIBUS UNUM")!

On Feb 13, 10:38 am, Andy MacAskill
wrote:


Edge-incused inscriptions, of course, can't really be displayed, and
that's going to be a pain to collectors of these dollar coins because
the date and mint mark are going to be "edge-incused" (along with "IN
GOD WE TRUST" and "E. PLURIBUS UNUM")!

I wonder if PCGS/NGC are working on a slabbing design that will create
a
prism effect near the edge of the coin, thus allowing the inscription
to be
read when viewing the obverse/reverse.

For the Whitman-esque books, we are out of luck, aside from them
printing
the order. I purchased two sets of the books, one for Philadelphia
and
the other for Denver, as the books were not designed with multiple
mints
in mind.

Les

http://life-of-coins.blogspot.com/

Andy MacAskill wrote:

Finally, the "edge-incused" inscriptions
(http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/index.cfm?action=EdgeIncused)
will be of interest to long-time coin collectors like myself: I've only
seen such on, I think, a couple of Greek coins I have.

Huh? Such edge inscriptions have been in use for many years in many
countries. Sometimes they are incused, sometimes raised, and in some
cases they are a combination of, say, incused lettering and a milled
edge.

Usually there is some kind of national motto, sometimes the face value,
or just ornaments. And I have a few pieces where the edge is the only
place that has the name of the issuing country. :-)

Christian

"Andy MacAskill" wrote in message
news:BXkAh.3264$5M1.180@trndny01...
Recalling that dollars, pounds, marks, etc. were defined originally as one
twentieth of an ounce of gold (they were, weren't they?), I put the word
"dollar" (backed by nothing but the fact that the IRS will accept such
"dollars" as payment in taxes) in quotation marks.

Those units of currency were not so defined, even the ones represented by
"etc."

And the reason for the parenthetical "s" is that the mint's thinking in
terms of many, many dollar coins, one for each el presidente:
http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/index.cfm?flash=yes.

Several Latin American countries have a presidente. The United States of
America has a President.

The good news is the reverse design: Lady Liberty herself
(http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/index.cfm?action=reverse).
(Tho' I wonder if the back of the Stainmaker dollar coin will be of the
Lewinsky pig.)

And the point of this crude statement would be...?

Finally, the "edge-incused" inscriptions
(http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/index.cfm?action=EdgeIncused)
will be of interest to long-time coin collectors like myself: I've only
seen such on, I think, a couple of Greek coins I have.

Early half cents and large cents had lettered edges, as did early half
dollars and dollars. Edge inscriptions may be seen on literally hundreds of
different world coin types, past and present.

Edge-incused inscriptions, of course, can't really be displayed, and
that's going to be a pain to collectors of these dollar coins because the
date and mint mark are going to be "edge-incused" (along with "IN GOD WE
TRUST" and "E. PLURIBUS UNUM")!

I find that people make their own pains. Would that our problems were no
bigger than that.

James

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On Feb 13, 10:38 am, Andy MacAskill
wrote:


Edge-incused inscriptions, of course, can't really be displayed, and
that's going to be a pain to collectors of these dollar coins because
the date and mint mark are going to be "edge-incused" (along with "IN
GOD WE TRUST" and "E. PLURIBUS UNUM")!

I wonder if PCGS/NGC are working on a slabbing design that will create
a
prism effect near the edge of the coin, thus allowing the inscription
to be
read when viewing the obverse/reverse.

For the Whitman-esque books, we are out of luck, aside from them
printing
the order. I purchased two sets of the books, one for Philadelphia
and
the other for Denver, as the books were not designed with multiple
mints
in mind.

Les

http://life-of-coins.blogspot.com/


The whole thing is curious. The mint apparently encourages collecting these
presidential dollars, yet "hides" the date and mint around the edge of the
coin. Although many new collectors will probably insert one each in special
albums in presidential sequence regardless of date or mint, a visible date
and mintmark on the coin's surface has always been the big appeal to album
collectors. If the coins in a series can't be displayed where the dates and
mints are visible, there may be less incentive to collect that series. The
numerous bullion coins probably wouldn't be collected anywhere near as much
if they were undated.

Bruce

"Andy MacAskill" wrote in message
news:BXkAh.3264$5M1.180@trndny01...
Recalling that dollars, pounds, marks, etc. were defined originally as one
twentieth of an ounce of gold (they were, weren't they?), I put the word
"dollar" (backed by nothing but the fact that the IRS will accept such
"dollars" as payment in taxes) in quotation marks.

And the reason for the parenthetical "s" is that the mint's thinking in
terms of many, many dollar coins, one for each el presidente:
http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/index.cfm?flash=yes.

The good news is the reverse design: Lady Liberty herself
(http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/index.cfm?action=reverse).
(Tho' I wonder if the back of the Stainmaker dollar coin will be of the
Lewinsky pig.)

Finally, the "edge-incused" inscriptions
(http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/index.cfm?action=EdgeIncused)
will be of interest to long-time coin collectors like myself: I've only
seen such on, I think, a couple of Greek coins I have.

Edge-incused inscriptions, of course, can't really be displayed, and
that's going to be a pain to collectors of these dollar coins because the
date and mint mark are going to be "edge-incused" (along with "IN GOD WE
TRUST" and "E. PLURIBUS UNUM")!

By the way, how are things with you, Ewan?

James

I have a suggestion for US coins with inscriptions on the edges. Let them
have E Pluribus Unum and In God we Trust, leaving more space on the front
and back for the subject, and of course, the date.

Tony

"Bruce Remick" wrote in message
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On Feb 13, 10:38 am, Andy MacAskill
wrote:


Edge-incused inscriptions, of course, can't really be displayed, and
that's going to be a pain to collectors of these dollar coins because
the date and mint mark are going to be "edge-incused" (along with "IN
GOD WE TRUST" and "E. PLURIBUS UNUM")!

I wonder if PCGS/NGC are working on a slabbing design that will create
a
prism effect near the edge of the coin, thus allowing the inscription
to be
read when viewing the obverse/reverse.

For the Whitman-esque books, we are out of luck, aside from them
printing
the order. I purchased two sets of the books, one for Philadelphia
and
the other for Denver, as the books were not designed with multiple
mints
in mind.

Les

http://life-of-coins.blogspot.com/


The whole thing is curious. The mint apparently encourages collecting
these presidential dollars, yet "hides" the date and mint around the edge
of the coin. Although many new collectors will probably insert one each
in special albums in presidential sequence regardless of date or mint, a
visible date and mintmark on the coin's surface has always been the big
appeal to album collectors. If the coins in a series can't be displayed
where the dates and mints are visible, there may be less incentive to
collect that series. The numerous bullion coins probably wouldn't be
collected anywhere near as much if they were undated.

Bruce






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lid (Christian Feldhaus) wrote in
d:

Andy MacAskill wrote:

Finally, the "edge-incused" inscriptions
(http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/index.cfm?action=EdgeIncus
ed) will be of interest to long-time coin collectors like myself:
I've only seen such on, I think, a couple of Greek coins I have.

Huh? Such edge inscriptions have been in use for many years in many
countries. Sometimes they are incused, sometimes raised, and in some
cases they are a combination of, say, incused lettering and a milled
edge.

Usually there is some kind of national motto, sometimes the face
value, or just ornaments. And I have a few pieces where the edge is
the only place that has the name of the issuing country. :-)

Christian


I've got a 1944 .720 Peso in my pocket right now. I think these are my
current favorite coins. They have "Libertad y Independencia" running
along the edge. A good choice for such a long motto. Still, the date
and the Mo are on the reverse which seems perfectly logical to me.

--
BA

"Ich liebe es, wenn mir die Taler auf die Glatze prasseln."
(Onkel Dagobert)

Andy MacAskill wrote:
Recalling that dollars, pounds, marks, etc. were defined originally as
one twentieth of an ounce of gold (they were, weren't they?), I put the
word "dollar" (backed by nothing but the fact that the IRS will accept
such "dollars" as payment in taxes) in quotation marks.

And the reason for the parenthetical "s" is that the mint's thinking in
terms of many, many dollar coins, one for each el presidente:
http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/index.cfm?flash=yes.

The good news is the reverse design: Lady Liberty herself
(http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/index.cfm?action=reverse).
(Tho' I wonder if the back of the Stainmaker dollar coin will be of the
Lewinsky pig.)

Finally, the "edge-incused" inscriptions
(http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/index.cfm?action=EdgeIncused)
will be of interest to long-time coin collectors like myself: I've only
seen such on, I think, a couple of Greek coins I have.

Current UK £1 and ¢ 2 coins, along with €2 coins, all have edge lettering.

I agree with other posters in that the date and mintmark should be on a flat
side and in fact I have always considered the side of the coin with the date
to be the 'obverse' (of course, your definition may differ)

Edge-incused inscriptions, of course, can't really be displayed, and
that's going to be a pain to collectors of these dollar coins because
the date and mint mark are going to be "edge-incused" (along with "IN
GOD WE TRUST" and "E. PLURIBUS UNUM")!

Someone posted links to grading company announcements regarding edge-lettering
visibility in their slabs in a previous thread.

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Bland Allison wrote:

Still, the date and the Mo are on the reverse which seems
perfectly logical to me.

Yes, that I found quite surprising too when I read about the edge
lettering of the presidential dollars. All these coins have the same
edge mottos - fine. Year and mintmark, however, which may well vary,
could have been put on either the obverse or reverse without making the
artwork less impressive ...

Christian