(RCSD) Help ID, please.

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Help ID, please. Thanks in advance.
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Tony Vella, Ottawa, Canada
http://tv-stamps.shorturl.com

On Sat, 8 Sep 2007 14:44:47 -0400, "Tony Vella"
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Bahrain


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Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd. http://www.sandrila.co.uk/

Thanks, Paul.

"Paul Herber" wrote in message
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Bahrain


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Regards, Paul Herber, Sandrila Ltd. http://www.sandrila.co.uk/

On Sep 9, 2:44 am, "Tony Vella" wrote:
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Help ID, please. Thanks in advance.

Interestingly, most of my Bahrain stamps,
are postmarked "Manama"
Which is the capital of Bahrain.

Probably should be Al-Manama not to confuse
it with Manama the part-enclave between
trucial states of Fujeira and Sharjah.
(just thinking aloud)

On Sep 9, 3:24 am, Rod wrote:
On Sep 9, 2:44 am, "Tony Vella" wrote:

http://cjoint.com/data/jiuLzsCIaY.htm
Help ID, please. Thanks in advance.

Interestingly, most of my Bahrain stamps,
are postmarked "Manama"
Which is the capital of Bahrain.

Probably should be Al-Manama not to confuse
it with Manama the part-enclave between
trucial states of Fujeira and Sharjah.
(just thinking aloud)

Sorry to disagree but I think that you will find that stamps produced
for Bahrain were o/p Bahrain as well as surcharged ( in Indian
currency).

Stamps surcharged only were for use in British Postal Agencies in
Eastern Arabia - namely Muscat, Abu Dhabi,,Dubai,Qatar,Doha,UmmSaid
and Das Island.

Such stamps can be found commercially postally used from Bahrain and
Kuwait, but unused stamps should not be "allocated" to these
countries.Incidentally Qatar had stamps o/p as well as surcharged from
1957, surcharge only are prior to that year. Prior to Indian
Independence unoverprinted stamps of India were used in some of these
places

This info from the "Red" Stanley Gibbons stamp catalogue.

Malcolm

Malcolm, to make your comments understandable, please do not clip the
original message.

Tony

"malcolm" wrote in message
ups.com...
Sorry to disagree but I think that you will find that stamps produced
for Bahrain were o/p Bahrain as well as surcharged ( in Indian
currency).

Stamps surcharged only were for use in British Postal Agencies in
Eastern Arabia - namely Muscat, Abu Dhabi,,Dubai,Qatar,Doha,UmmSaid
and Das Island.

Such stamps can be found commercially postally used from Bahrain and
Kuwait, but unused stamps should not be "allocated" to these
countries.Incidentally Qatar had stamps o/p as well as surcharged from
1957, surcharge only are prior to that year. Prior to Indian
Independence unoverprinted stamps of India were used in some of these
places

This info from the "Red" Stanley Gibbons stamp catalogue.

Malcolm













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A.E. Gelat wrote:
Malcolm, to make your comments understandable, please do not clip the
original message.

Tony

"malcolm" wrote in message
ups.com...
Sorry to disagree but I think that you will find that stamps produced
for Bahrain were o/p Bahrain as well as surcharged ( in Indian
currency).

This was regards Tony Vella's ID request:

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http://cjoint.com/data/jiuLzsCIaY.htm
Help ID, please. Thanks in advance.

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A response was received declaring it to be a Bahraini stamp, which
is in error - the stamp is from Oman (or Muscat, or Muscat and Oman,
depending on how the catalogue chooses to indicate it). In the Scott
catalogue, it's either Oman 65 or Oman 79, depending on the watermark.

Ryan

On Sep 12, 10:09 pm, malcolm wrote:
Sorry to disagree but I think that you will find that stamps produced for Bahrain were o/p Bahrain as well as surcharged ( in Indian currency).

I agree Malcolm,
I have similar stamps 1NP1 and "Ajman" etc.

In 2003 Blair responded to my request
and hence I have mine Catalogued under
"Arabia ~ British postal agancies"

http://cjoint.com/data/jnbPWqkTNP.htm

Rodney

On Sep 8, 2:56 pm, "Tony Vella" wrote:
Thanks, Paul.

"Paul Herber" wrote in message

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British Postal Agencies in Eastern Arabia

These stamps were issued for use in post offices in the Gulf
other than Bahrain and Kuwait (though they were valid there).
In 1951 and 1953 they were expressly sold in Kuwait due to
local shortages of "Kuwait" overprints.

A postal service was operated in the Gulf by the Indian
postal administration in Bombay from 1884. With the
independence of India in 1947 responsibility passed
to the British GPO on 1 April 1947, though the postal
services remained under the control of Karachi,
transferring from Indian to Pakistani administration in
August 1947 until the GPO was ready to take over
on 1 April 1948.

For this reason the previously overprinted Indian
stamps were replaced by overprinted GB stamps
in 1948. Bahrain and Kuwait continued with
overprinted stamps, but the rest of the area now
adopted currency surcharges on British stamps
but without a country name.

Note: Originally primarily used in Muscat these
issues have often been listed under that name in
catalogues. Other variants of the country heading
in catalogues include:
"Muscat and Eastern Arabian Agencies",
"Muscat and Dubai and Arabian Gulf Agencies",
or (eg in some American listings) "Oman".

The current designation in the UK is "British Postal
Agencies in Eastern Arabia", since it more accurately
reflects the wide usage in Muscat (1948-1966), Qatar
(1950-1957), Abu Dhabi (1960-1964), Dubai (1948-1961).

Although superficially the overprints look exactly the
same as those used for the Bahrain and Kuwait issues,
there is an interesting situation with the George VI
1½ annas stamps.

The top half of the sheet uses a figure "1" which is
slightly shorter (3¼ mm) than in the bottom half of
the sheet (3½ mm); although this means that they
exist in equal numbers, se-tenant pairs (ie vertical
pairs across the middle of the sheet) are extremely
elusive since sheets were commonly split in half
before sale.

Interestingly on the equivalent surcharges for other
Gulf territories, the Bahrain issue uses only the tall
version of the fraction, and Kuwait uses only the
short version; this may tell us something about
the order in which the overprinting plates were set
up. It also proves that it is not the case (as
sometimes suggested) that the three issues were
printed from the same printing plate with "Bahrain"
or "Kuwait" swapped or omitted (though this may
the case for the QE issues.

All stamps are overprinted with value only, with no country name.

Dates : 1948 - 1966
Currency
(1948) 12 pies = 1 anna; 16 annas = 1 rupee
(1957) 100 naye paise = 1 rupee

Bahrain
http://www.intayrnet.com/collectable...res/bph305.jpg

Kuwait
http://content.answers.com/main/cont..._1957_15np.jpg

Blair