On Nov 23, 2:37 am, "Bob in Phx" wrote:
More info...
there is also a
pal decoder board and the amp (solid state) was made in England. So, I am
guessing that it was some sort of import that used a pal vcr deck.....
Bob in phx.
"Ken In Texas" wrote in ...
Dang John...what juke have you not saw 
I know ive never saw or heard
of anything like that one
Id like to see that think work
John Robertson wrote:
Post some pictures of the logic board - I might have seen this before,
but am not certain.
John :-#)#
Bob in Phx wrote:
sorry, forgot the JPG extension...
please try these!!!!!!!!!
thanks in advance.
http://members.cox.net/rbelisle1/juke1.JPG
http://members.cox.net/rbelisle1/juke2.JPG
http://members.cox.net/rbelisle1/juke3.JPG
http://members.cox.net/rbelisle1/juke4.JPG
http://members.cox.net/rbelisle1/juke5.JPG
http://members.cox.net/rbelisle1/juke6.JPG
"Bob in Phx" wrote in message
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ill fix it !!!!!!
bob
"Ken In Texas" wrote in message
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me either
Speshul When Lit wrote:
none of these pics work for me
"Bob in Phx" wrote in message
news
I friend of mine has delivered to me, a "video & Sound" jukebox made
in Amity NY. This thing is over 6 foot tall, contains a 25 inch rca
Television, coin door and a computer.
first off does anyone have any idea where I could find any
information about the company, or the system.
The jukebox is missing the playback VCR's and the speakers. From the
plugs in the rear of the box, it appears that the VCR's used some
sort of 25 pin control system, like I have never seen before.
I'll be posting pics asap
he
http://members.cox.net/rbelisle1/juke1
http://members.cox.net/rbelisle1/juke2
http://members.cox.net/rbelisle1/juke3
thanks in advance for any information
--
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Custom Pinball Cards, Jukeboxes, Drive In's
"Never ask a man if he's from Texas.
If he is, he'll tell you on his own.
If he ain't, no need to embarrass him."
--
Ken In Texas
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Custom Pinball Cards, Jukeboxes, Drive In's
"Never ask a man if he's from Texas.
If he is, he'll tell you on his own.
If he ain't, no need to embarrass him."
VCR based video jukeboxes were typically sold in Australia from about
1984/5 on (usually by scam or get-rich-quick merchants on exhorbitant
lease schemes direct to bar owners, costing the operator a site in the
process). They were in a crappy looking black or blue craftwood box
and ran from a commodore64 computer. At the time Australian
manufactured Rowe MM 2,3,4 machines were mostly used in commercial
operation.
The last time I saw one sold to a site would have been 1992 in a city
called Maryborough (that incidentally is famous for being the incest
capital of QLD) to a now defunct hotel, and by that stage the makers
had changed the layout of the song titles from the 45rpm title strip
format that yours has to one that grouped the songs into lists of 10
or so in windows about the size of a CD cover (to attempt to keep up
with the times as CD jukes were coming on the scene about then).
They typically used a single "national" (now panasonic) brand VCR that
was a special professional unit and a lot narrower in width than a
standard home VCR of the time. (It possibly didnt have a tuner). Due
to the Single VCR, it could take a significant time to wind and rewind
between selections, especially if they are at the other end of the
tape to each other !
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in 1988-89 I did obtain a more "up-market" model that had come from
the USA, that's system looks more like yours, (cabinet wasnt anything
like it). This version had 2 of these VCR's in it - and 2 copies of
the same VHS tape were used, the second VCR would cue up the next
selection ready to play, so there was no delay between songs. It had
the same plugs as you show there, but the board was different. I never
got it operational, and it ended up on the local rubbish tip in 1992.
It didnt have any VCRs in it, but everything else was there.
I may have external pics of this unit still, if you want I will try
and find and scan them for you.
As I remember, the VHS tapes were specially encoded, and required a
stereo (read - expensive) VCR to operate. One channel held the mono
audio, and the other channel had "control tones". There would be a
burst of them (possibly a similar standard to the cassette tape
interfaces used on the early consumer computers in the early 1980's)
at the beginning of the tape for about 10 seconds, then a sharp "pip"
noise every few minutes as you played the tape. I assume that the
machine kept the tape threaded against the audio head and did a
"search" at high speed, while monitoring the head for these tones, in
order to "tell" the system where the tape position was so it could
find the wanted song.
The layout of the tape was typically 12 songs in order with about a 10
sec break between them, then advertising, then another 12 songs etc.
etc
The system was PAL (Australian BG format) and the tapes would play on
any regular VCR
( i still have a box of the tapes, the music on them is typical 1985-6
era)
These systems were very unreliable long term, and the tapes (in the
1980's) were on some ripoff subsrciption service at about $150 AU per
month. Few sites woud earn that much at the time.
I would not advise trying to restore one to original operation. It
would make much more sense to install a PC and juke software and run
it that way. I dont know how you would go about making the tapes for
it, even if you did get it to work.
Your system's innards certianly dont look American, for one that power
board is a UK mains socket unit, and that power transformer looks more
like our Eur/Australian locally made models than anything I have ever
seen in a US made machine. Finally the wire colours are blue/brown
and that is a UK/Australian standard. The brown is the Active and the
blue is the neutral.
It also looks like a typical pommy cabinet design, the USA made stuff
was more advanced in style and appearance, and as far as I know, still
is. I would suggest it was imported and had a US distributor's name
put on it, or they had their own cabinet art made for it.
The music on your machine is interesting too, it has the Australian
songs "sleeping beauty" and "pleasure and pain" (fortunately not their
later song "i touch myself") both by the local group
"divinyls" (christina amphlett) as well as "Working class man" by
jimmy barnes (lead singer of "cold chisel"). I wasnt aware these
songs were ever popular - or even released outside australia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christina_Amphlett
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I do have a manual for another unit "molly's video jukebox" (named
after the 1974-89 "count-down" TV music show host molly meldrum) but
its little use, mostly contining information on how to market the
machine to a site.
I dont know how this machine worked inside, as I never saw the guts of
one, but it did sound good