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Old February 3rd 13, 08:02 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Victor Manta
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Default USPS - Immunity from local traffic laws

"Sir F.A. Rien" wrote in message
...
"The notorious East Cleveland traffic cameras nabbed U.S. Postal Service
Vehicles breaking the law seven times and sent a notice to the Post Office
on Broadway with the bad news every driver hates to see: a picture of the
infraction and a demand for payment ...

Which they will not get.

Norton said if an individual driving a mail vehicle was stopped by a
police
officer, the individual would be responsible.


Precisely !

He wonders why the post office dodged instead of giving up the culprits."


The cops have to ID the driver, it is NOT up to a company to become
police. Another example of the failure of the 'system' in that
presumption of guilt is made first and that everyone must 'snitch'.


Yes, there is a valid "presumption of guilt", because it was pointed to by
an impartial traffic camera. The car's owner was clearly identified and it
was the USPS.

It is USPS's duty to report who was the driver, as it is the duty of any of
us who borrowed his car to somebody. If we don't do it, for any reason, we
are considered by law as being the driver himself, and we are considered
responsible for the consequences. The ownership of a car, that can be used
also as a deadly weapon, entails various responsibilities, like it or onot.

The speeding driver has a legal ways to defend himself, by using arguments
like a badly visible sign or a badly calibrated camera. This is the usual
scenario, and such arguments can or cannot convince a judge, the risk of the
driver being the increased costs of the whole procedure.

What is unusual in our case, and what brings us back to the subject of the
thread, is that the USPS seems to be excepted from the rule of law, due to
its alleged immunity from local traffic laws. I don't see why USPS should be
excepted, cars and drivers being in the whole world alike, but maybe
somebody can enlighten me on this subject.

BTW, I personally know the situation of the East Cleveland traffic, where
the 20 miles/hour zones are interspersed with a dense net of traffic lights,
a combination that can drive crazy some irascible drivers. Who doesn't like
this combination can try to change the law, as Sir Rien suggested in another
posting.

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Victor Manta, PWO, AIJP

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