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Old July 9th 04, 09:43 PM
Peter Smith
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On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 15:42:44 GMT, Ian
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Hi Ian & All

The reason I refer to them as 'Jetton' instead of 'Jeton', is because
the first book that I read used the term 'Jetton'. I suppose it is
just what you get use to first.

With me it is the same as "To Hanover" Tokens, I got use to calling
them "Cumberland Jacks", once again this was because this was the
first term I saw for these items. Now if I go into a coin shop and
ask for a "Cumberland Jack", I too get get blank stares.

As for the books, I can't really help. I haven't collected enough
Jettons / jetons / Brass discs to warrant the outlay for the
books. Though I did find the "Paranumismatic Dictionary" a very
helpful book.

Peter




Peter,

Out of sheer interest, why is it that you refer to it as a `jetton' as
opposed to `jeton'?

The word jeton stems from the french verb jeter which means `to throw'.
jetons were `throw pieces' or `place pieces', or (in other words a
reckoning counter (the Nurnberg type sometimes being referred to as
rechenpfennigs). Their placement on a checker type board determining the
value of a transaction or series of transactions.

I've noticed over the years that some people (specifically in England)
insist on calling them `jettons'. Whenever i've spoken to dealers and
collectors in the UK about `jetons' (french pronounciation) I get blank
stares. It's probably too poncy to use a french accent in the UK these
days anyway :-). When I say jettons (as in Jet-uns) they say `ah yes
those things. Had some last week, but none at present' I've never had
any luck buying decent examples of jetons in the UK. True, there is no
shortage of corroded bits of metal that leave it to your imagination
what these early jetons once looked like.

I've been toying with the idea of getting hold of a copy of Mitchiner
specifically for the Lowlands and France, but I haven't come across one
in the flesh to browse through and see if its what i'm looking for. How
does it compare with Feuardent for classification and reference images?
Hopefully it is better, but I would be pleasantly surprised if it is as
comprehensive.

Ian

Peter Smith wrote:
On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 01:53:20 GMT, "jon d'souza^eva"
wrote:

Hi

What you have there looks like a Nuremburg Jetton, And if I am not
mistaken it is a Hans Krauwinckel Type (1586 - 1635)

Hope this helps

Pete


Hi,

I recently bought a bag of coin and token oddments. I've managed to identify
all but two; this is one of them:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dsouzae...n/unknown1.jpg
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dsouzae...n/unknown2.jpg

It weighs a mere 1.6 grams and is about 15 mm across.

I know nothing about gold coins (I specialise in copper), but this looks
like gold to me (it's certainly a different colour to my many "in memory of
the good old days" tokens!).

Can anyone identify this for me?

Thanks a lot,

Jon




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