Burning Stamp Collection - Proper?
 

It most definitely was no troll.

Too many of us seniors, who used to collect stamps, are in a similar
situation.

For many of us, sooner than sell below a fair price to some crooked dealer,
by burning our collections we at least get the satisfaction of denying some
thief the chance to profit from us.

Not all of us have worthwhile charities nearby, either.


On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:59:49 -0400, wrote:
On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 02:00:22 -0000, Anonymous
wrote:

A friend has admitted that in disgust with offers to buy
from so-called reputable dealers, he has now started to
burn his huge collection.

He says that the offers to buy were so insulting,
he feels that by burning his collection, at least
he will be denying the crooks the chance to make
money from him.

Apparently his children have no interest in stamp
collecting, since they are busy with new families.

Like my friend, I also am disgusted with the larger
dealers, and have found no worthwhile charities to
which I would bequeath my collections.

Is burning the only sensible solution?

Comments from all, invited.


This is a troll in the disguise of the so-called "friend". Do not
take it seriously.

Burning Stamp Collection - Proper?
 

On Oct 7, 11:15 am, Proposition 88
wrote:
It most definitely was no troll.

Too many of us seniors, who used to collect stamps, are in a similar
situation.

For many of us, sooner than sell below a fair price to some crooked dealer,
by burning our collections we at least get the satisfaction of denying some
thief the chance to profit from us.

Not all of us have worthwhile charities nearby, either.

Anon has posted an average 20 posts a day for years under just that
alias. With that time he could have sold all of our stamp
collections.
This guy in Canada sells stamps to raise money for dogs and cats:
http://www.strays.ca/aboutus.htm
www.catsanonymous.ca

Burning Stamp Collection - Proper?
 

In , on 10/07/2007
at 05:15 PM, Proposition 88 said:

For many of us, sooner than sell below a fair price to some crooked dealer,
by burning our collections we at least get the satisfaction of denying
some thief the chance to profit from us.

You're posting here, as did the OP, so you're internet-capable. If you get
a bum offer from a dealer, why not offer for sale here (in the markeyplace
group, at least) and try what YOU think is a more reasonable price. Let's
say you believe some particular subset is worth $1000 and the dealer offers
$100. Why not offer it for sale at $550 (splitting the difference)?
Assuming you sell it, the dealer looses out and you've netted $550 than the
other (ridiculous, IMO) option. And some other collector may now be happy
(noting that a dealer may answer the call, too).

If you don't sell it, you can split the difference again and make a new
online offer. However, if this happens you gotta start to think that the
dealer might be a little more realistic than you had originally thought.
Sometimes collectors are a little too attached to their collections ... I've
seen it before and I'm NOT a dealer.

Someone suggested eBay. Sure, you'd do best splitting a collection up into
smaller parts, but offering even a large single lot nets you more than
burning does. And, again, you let EVERYONE compete with those pesky
dealers, although they might have more cash resources at any given time,
perhaps you can connect up with an eager collector with Big Bucks (or who is
willing to borrow against his home :). The smaller the lots, the more
collectors that can participate.

There are many ways to "deny" someone from acquiring a collection. Burning
it is about the silliest way (note a massive attempt to stay PC by using the
work "silliest").

Nick

Burning Stamp Collection - Proper?
 

I think that the problem is in US market. I am for small country and
collecting stamps only for fun. I collect almost everything and doing
few hundreds exchange per year. Postal charges are very expensive here
and I spend lots of money for sending letters with stamps. In exchange I
have received all common stamps I can get. And now, from many countries,
I need only expensive pieces. I start to check many Internet auctions,
and fill very dummy. I thought that my collection worth something, but I
note that you can buy for small amount very nice collection. Especially
in US. In last few weeks on Internet I bid on two collections:
Switzerland (almost all stamps from Strubli till Pax, without SS)and
very nice and populate collections of Italy. Catalog values for both
collections are many 1000's of US$. Normaly, I was outbid (my salary is
about $1.000) but I am very confused: final price for each collections
were bellow $1500. It is very cheap even for me. I realy don't know how
it is profitable for owners (in both cases dealers put these items on
the internet). By the way, my children are interested only in music and
PC games, and my collection probably will be burried with me (or sold to
the dealer for few bucks). That is our future.


Proposition 88 wrote:

It most definitely was no troll.

Too many of us seniors, who used to collect stamps, are in a similar
situation.

For many of us, sooner than sell below a fair price to some crooked dealer,
by burning our collections we at least get the satisfaction of denying some
thief the chance to profit from us.

Not all of us have worthwhile charities nearby, either.


On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:59:49 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 02:00:22 -0000, Anonymous
wrote:


A friend has admitted that in disgust with offers to buy

from so-called reputable dealers, he has now started to

burn his huge collection.


He says that the offers to buy were so insulting,
he feels that by burning his collection, at least
he will be denying the crooks the chance to make
money from him.


Apparently his children have no interest in stamp
collecting, since they are busy with new families.


Like my friend, I also am disgusted with the larger
dealers, and have found no worthwhile charities to
which I would bequeath my collections.


Is burning the only sensible solution?


Comments from all, invited.



This is a troll in the disguise of the so-called "friend". Do not
take it seriously.

Burning Stamp Collection - Proper?
 

Troll or not, the OP is an idiot!

If it is truely worth something, then a dealer knows what it is worth.
Either that or sell it on eBay at least.
Burining a collectionis a childish act.

A dealer knows how long it takes to break up and sell a collection.

If the collection had anything of real value a dealer will pay a fair price.

============================================

"Proposition 88" wrote in message
...
It most definitely was no troll.

Too many of us seniors, who used to collect stamps, are in a similar
situation.

For many of us, sooner than sell below a fair price to some crooked
dealer,
by burning our collections we at least get the satisfaction of denying
some
thief the chance to profit from us.

Not all of us have worthwhile charities nearby, either.


On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:59:49 -0400, wrote:
On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 02:00:22 -0000, Anonymous
wrote:

A friend has admitted that in disgust with offers to buy
from so-called reputable dealers, he has now started to
burn his huge collection.

He says that the offers to buy were so insulting,
he feels that by burning his collection, at least
he will be denying the crooks the chance to make
money from him.

Apparently his children have no interest in stamp
collecting, since they are busy with new families.

Like my friend, I also am disgusted with the larger
dealers, and have found no worthwhile charities to
which I would bequeath my collections.

Is burning the only sensible solution?

Comments from all, invited.


This is a troll in the disguise of the so-called "friend". Do not
take it seriously.

Burning Stamp Collection - Proper?
 

On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 10:37:59 -0700, TL wrote:

On Oct 7, 11:15 am, Proposition 88
wrote:
It most definitely was no troll.

Too many of us seniors, who used to collect stamps, are in a similar
situation.

For many of us, sooner than sell below a fair price to some crooked dealer,
by burning our collections we at least get the satisfaction of denying some
thief the chance to profit from us.

Not all of us have worthwhile charities nearby, either.

Anon has posted an average 20 posts a day for years under just that
alias. With that time he could have sold all of our stamp
collections.

hehehehehe... as I said and Tom 2nd the motion, he's a troll...

This guy in Canada sells stamps to raise money for dogs and cats:
http://www.strays.ca/aboutus.htm
www.catsanonymous.ca

Which is quite cool!

Burning Stamp Collection - Proper?
 

On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 14:24:53 -0400, "Nick Knight"
wrote:

In , on 10/07/2007
at 05:15 PM, Proposition 88 said:

For many of us, sooner than sell below a fair price to some crooked dealer,
by burning our collections we at least get the satisfaction of denying
some thief the chance to profit from us.

You're posting here, as did the OP, so you're internet-capable. If you get
a bum offer from a dealer, why not offer for sale here (in the markeyplace
group, at least) and try what YOU think is a more reasonable price. Let's
say you believe some particular subset is worth $1000 and the dealer offers
$100. Why not offer it for sale at $550 (splitting the difference)?
Assuming you sell it, the dealer looses out and you've netted $550 than the
other (ridiculous, IMO) option. And some other collector may now be happy
(noting that a dealer may answer the call, too).

If you don't sell it, you can split the difference again and make a new
online offer. However, if this happens you gotta start to think that the
dealer might be a little more realistic than you had originally thought.
Sometimes collectors are a little too attached to their collections ... I've
seen it before and I'm NOT a dealer.

Someone suggested eBay. Sure, you'd do best splitting a collection up into
smaller parts, but offering even a large single lot nets you more than
burning does. And, again, you let EVERYONE compete with those pesky
dealers, although they might have more cash resources at any given time,
perhaps you can connect up with an eager collector with Big Bucks (or who is
willing to borrow against his home :). The smaller the lots, the more
collectors that can participate.

There are many ways to "deny" someone from acquiring a collection. Burning
it is about the silliest way (note a massive attempt to stay PC by using the
work "silliest").

Or a "shill" way to attempt to get someone interested in something
that, if not mistaken, is way overpriced... according to what I was
offered once anyway. More will be revealed.

Burning Stamp Collection - Proper?
 

On Oct 7, 9:56 pm, wrote:
On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 10:37:59 -0700, TL wrote:
On Oct 7, 11:15 am, Proposition 88
wrote:
It most definitely was no troll.

Too many of us seniors, who used to collect stamps, are in a similar
situation.

For many of us, sooner than sell below a fair price to some crooked dealer,
by burning our collections we at least get the satisfaction of denying some
thief the chance to profit from us.

Not all of us have worthwhile charities nearby, either.

Anon has posted an average 20 posts a day for years under just that
alias. With that time he could have sold all of our stamp
collections.

hehehehehe... as I said and Tom 2nd the motion, he's a troll...

This guy in Canada sells stamps to raise money for dogs and cats:
http://www.strays.ca/aboutus.htm
www.catsanonymous.ca

Which is quite cool!

Anon, Prop88, Prop13, Kramer, Grosvenor, MattKern, GeorgeOrwell,
JimDavidson, Nachrichten etc. etc are all the same person. Countless
aliases, thousands of posts per month. The ngs are his life. He
really should consider the cats and dogs idea.

Burning Stamp Collection - Proper?
 

On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:48:21 -0700, "Richard C." wrote:

Troll or not, the OP is an idiot!

If it is truely worth something, then a dealer knows what it is worth.
Either that or sell it on eBay at least.
Burining a collectionis a childish act.

A dealer knows how long it takes to break up and sell a collection.

If the collection had anything of real value a dealer will pay a fair price.

NOT IN USA!! Or Canada either.

From comments from many senior collectors, it seems there will be a lot of
collections getting burned by owners, to avoid getting burned by slimy
dealers.

And do not mention the crooked auctions, which seem to be worse than the
dealers!

============================================

"Proposition 88" wrote in message
.. .
It most definitely was no troll.

Too many of us seniors, who used to collect stamps, are in a similar
situation.

For many of us, sooner than sell below a fair price to some crooked
dealer,
by burning our collections we at least get the satisfaction of denying
some
thief the chance to profit from us.

Not all of us have worthwhile charities nearby, either.


On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:59:49 -0400, wrote:
On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 02:00:22 -0000, Anonymous
wrote:

A friend has admitted that in disgust with offers to buy
from so-called reputable dealers, he has now started to
burn his huge collection.

He says that the offers to buy were so insulting,
he feels that by burning his collection, at least
he will be denying the crooks the chance to make
money from him.

Apparently his children have no interest in stamp
collecting, since they are busy with new families.

Like my friend, I also am disgusted with the larger
dealers, and have found no worthwhile charities to
which I would bequeath my collections.

Is burning the only sensible solution?

Comments from all, invited.


This is a troll in the disguise of the so-called "friend". Do not
take it seriously.

Burning Stamp Collection - Proper?
 

"Proposition 88" wrote in message
...

NOT IN USA!! Or Canada either.

From comments from many senior collectors, it seems there will be a lot of
collections getting burned by owners, to avoid getting burned by slimy
dealers.

And do not mention the crooked auctions, which seem to be worse than the
dealers!

===========================
Sounds like you pick the wrong dealers and auctions.

Just what percent of cat should a dealer offer?
Why?

Most items in a collection will sit in the dealers stock for 20 years.
Most of us have an inflated idea of what our collections are worth.
Especially collections with 99% of the items with a cat of under $1.

Look at eBay....many collections go for big bucks if they have any better
items.
Ones with only cheap stamps go cheap.