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Rodney December 29th 03 10:05 PM

Romania query
 
Occasionally, I bump into stamp tabs such as these:

http://groups.msn.com/Stamps/shoebox...to&PhotoID=190

I was wondering, if the habit of adjoining tabs was widespread
in the Romanian collection?

Does the tab increase the value of the adjoining stamp?

In the case of Copernicus, I guess the tab advertises a Philatelic
convention in Poland? was this a joint effort?

Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks


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Victor Manta December 29th 03 11:08 PM

"Rodney" wrote in message
...
Occasionally, I bump into stamp tabs such as these:

http://groups.msn.com/Stamps/shoebox...to&PhotoID=190

I was wondering, if the habit of adjoining tabs was widespread
in the Romanian collection?

Does the tab increase the value of the adjoining stamp?

In the case of Copernicus, I guess the tab advertises a Philatelic
convention in Poland? was this a joint effort?

Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks


Rodney,

Both stamps of 1957 and 1973 were issued with tabs joining them. Michel
gives prices with and without tabs for the 1957 set, the prices with tabs
being higher.

The 1973 issue is expected to have a tab. It commemorates a philatelic
exhibition in Poznan, Poland. Poland has issued two souvenir sheets on 19th
of August 1973.

Victor Manta

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Mette December 30th 03 12:20 AM

Rodney, if you need stamps from the Polish part of any
such joint issues, please contact me. There are several
Polish Copernicus stamps in circulation, and I have some.
Not quite so elaborate as the Romanian ones, but yet valid
postage stamps ... ;-)

Mette






Victor Manta wrote in message
...
"Rodney" wrote in message
...
Occasionally, I bump into stamp tabs such as these:

http://groups.msn.com/Stamps/shoebox...to&PhotoID=190

I was wondering, if the habit of adjoining tabs was widespread
in the Romanian collection?

Does the tab increase the value of the adjoining stamp?

In the case of Copernicus, I guess the tab advertises a Philatelic
convention in Poland? was this a joint effort?

Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks


Rodney,

Both stamps of 1957 and 1973 were issued with tabs joining them. Michel
gives prices with and without tabs for the 1957 set, the prices with tabs
being higher.

The 1973 issue is expected to have a tab. It commemorates a philatelic
exhibition in Poznan, Poland. Poland has issued two souvenir sheets on

19th
of August 1973.

Victor Manta

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Spanish Africa: http://www.values.ch/sna-site/
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Rodney December 30th 03 03:46 AM

Thanks guys,
Mette I have not checked my Polish collection,
the majority I have, seem all to have tabs already.

On a Romanian note, today is "this day in history"
in 1947 that King Michael abdicated the throne, under communist pressure
Stamps, generally, from now on lose "Romania" and reveal
"Republica Populara Romania".

One must wonder how popular that really was.

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"Mette" wrote in message ...
| Rodney, if you need stamps from the Polish part of any
| such joint issues, please contact me. There are several
| Polish Copernicus stamps in circulation, and I have some.
| Not quite so elaborate as the Romanian ones, but yet valid
| postage stamps ... ;-)
|
| Mette
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Victor Manta wrote in message
| ...
| "Rodney" wrote in message
| ...
| Occasionally, I bump into stamp tabs such as these:
|
|
http://groups.msn.com/Stamps/shoebox...to&PhotoID=190
|
| I was wondering, if the habit of adjoining tabs was widespread
| in the Romanian collection?
|
| Does the tab increase the value of the adjoining stamp?
|
| In the case of Copernicus, I guess the tab advertises a Philatelic
| convention in Poland? was this a joint effort?
|
| Any info would be appreciated.
| Thanks
|
| Rodney,
|
| Both stamps of 1957 and 1973 were issued with tabs joining them. Michel
| gives prices with and without tabs for the 1957 set, the prices with tabs
| being higher.
|
| The 1973 issue is expected to have a tab. It commemorates a philatelic
| exhibition in Poznan, Poland. Poland has issued two souvenir sheets on
| 19th
| of August 1973.
|
| Victor Manta
|
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| Art on Stamps: http://values.ch
| Romania Shown by Its Stamps: http://marci-postale.com
| Communism on Stamps: http://www.values.ch/Communism/
| Spanish Africa: http://www.values.ch/sna-site/
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malcolm hirst December 30th 03 08:22 AM

Hello Rodney

Popular in this context should probably be read as "People's" - it is
in fact if not in mind synonimous. A fair number of peoples republics
do not appear to have a high regard for people and are certainly
decidedly unpopular - and Romania of a certain period more unpopular
than most !

Regards
Malcolm





"Rodney" wrote in message ...
Thanks guys,
Mette I have not checked my Polish collection,
the majority I have, seem all to have tabs already.

On a Romanian note, today is "this day in history"
in 1947 that King Michael abdicated the throne, under communist pressure
Stamps, generally, from now on lose "Romania" and reveal
"Republica Populara Romania".

One must wonder how popular that really was.

--

(Remove gum to reply)


"Mette" wrote in message ...
| Rodney, if you need stamps from the Polish part of any
| such joint issues, please contact me. There are several
| Polish Copernicus stamps in circulation, and I have some.
| Not quite so elaborate as the Romanian ones, but yet valid
| postage stamps ... ;-)
|
| Mette
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Victor Manta wrote in message
| ...
| "Rodney" wrote in message
| ...
| Occasionally, I bump into stamp tabs such as these:
|
|
http://groups.msn.com/Stamps/shoebox...to&PhotoID=190
|
| I was wondering, if the habit of adjoining tabs was widespread
| in the Romanian collection?
|
| Does the tab increase the value of the adjoining stamp?
|
| In the case of Copernicus, I guess the tab advertises a Philatelic
| convention in Poland? was this a joint effort?
|
| Any info would be appreciated.
| Thanks
|
| Rodney,
|
| Both stamps of 1957 and 1973 were issued with tabs joining them. Michel
| gives prices with and without tabs for the 1957 set, the prices with tabs
| being higher.
|
| The 1973 issue is expected to have a tab. It commemorates a philatelic
| exhibition in Poznan, Poland. Poland has issued two souvenir sheets on
19th
| of August 1973.
|
| Victor Manta
|
| --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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| Philatelic Webmasters Organization: http://pwmo.org
| Art on Stamps: http://values.ch
| Romania Shown by Its Stamps: http://marci-postale.com
| Communism on Stamps: http://www.values.ch/Communism/
| Spanish Africa: http://www.values.ch/sna-site/
| Remove "um" from the e-mail address to reply
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Rodney December 30th 03 08:40 AM

Eloquently put, Malcolm.
I shall employ you as my spokesperson,
however, I must draw your attention to the pay rates,
or lack thereof. :)

In our home, we have a democracy of 3,
where I am regularly voted out, my policies are stellar
so must presume it must be in the delivery.

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"malcolm hirst" wrote in message om...
| Hello Rodney
|
| Popular in this context should probably be read as "People's" - it is
| in fact if not in mind synonimous. A fair number of peoples republics
| do not appear to have a high regard for people and are certainly
| decidedly unpopular - and Romania of a certain period more unpopular
| than most !
|
| Regards
| Malcolm
|
|
|
|
|
| "Rodney" wrote in message ...
| Thanks guys,
| Mette I have not checked my Polish collection,
| the majority I have, seem all to have tabs already.
|
| On a Romanian note, today is "this day in history"
| in 1947 that King Michael abdicated the throne, under communist pressure
| Stamps, generally, from now on lose "Romania" and reveal
| "Republica Populara Romania".
|
| One must wonder how popular that really was.
|
| --
|

| (Remove gum to reply)
|
|
| "Mette" wrote in message ...
| | Rodney, if you need stamps from the Polish part of any
| | such joint issues, please contact me. There are several
| | Polish Copernicus stamps in circulation, and I have some.
| | Not quite so elaborate as the Romanian ones, but yet valid
| | postage stamps ... ;-)
| |
| | Mette
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| | Victor Manta wrote in message
| | ...
| | "Rodney" wrote in message
| | ...
| | Occasionally, I bump into stamp tabs such as these:
| |
| |
http://groups.msn.com/Stamps/shoebox...to&PhotoID=190
| |
| | I was wondering, if the habit of adjoining tabs was widespread
| | in the Romanian collection?
| |
| | Does the tab increase the value of the adjoining stamp?
| |
| | In the case of Copernicus, I guess the tab advertises a Philatelic
| | convention in Poland? was this a joint effort?
| |
| | Any info would be appreciated.
| | Thanks
| |
| | Rodney,
| |
| | Both stamps of 1957 and 1973 were issued with tabs joining them. Michel
| | gives prices with and without tabs for the 1957 set, the prices with tabs
| | being higher.
| |
| | The 1973 issue is expected to have a tab. It commemorates a philatelic
| | exhibition in Poznan, Poland. Poland has issued two souvenir sheets on
| 19th
| | of August 1973.
| |
| | Victor Manta
| |
| | --------------------------------------------------------------------------
| -
| | Philatelic Webmasters Organization: http://pwmo.org
| | Art on Stamps: http://values.ch
| | Romania Shown by Its Stamps: http://marci-postale.com
| | Communism on Stamps: http://www.values.ch/Communism/
| | Spanish Africa: http://www.values.ch/sna-site/
| | Remove "um" from the e-mail address to reply
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| |
| |
| |



Victor Manta December 30th 03 08:41 AM

"Rodney" wrote in message
...
Thanks guys,
snip

On a Romanian note, today is "this day in history"
in 1947 that King Michael abdicated the throne, under communist pressure
Stamps, generally, from now on lose "Romania" and reveal
"Republica Populara Romania".

One must wonder how popular that really was.


King Michael abdicated the throne under the pressure of the USSR, the
country that totally controlled the occupied Romania. After the WWII, the
Romanian Communist party numbered about 1,000 members only. The king tried
to oppose the increasing domination of the USSR, for example by a so called
royal strike (a refusal to govern), but in vain, because the fate of Romania
was already decided, this starting by the Yalta conference.

King Michael on stamps:
http://www.marci-postale.com/Romania...rship/king.htm

The new name of the country, as it appears on stamps starting by 1948, was
Republica Populara Romana (I have left aside the Romanian characters, that
most newsgroup readers won't display correctly). This means Romanian Popular
Republic (one of many), as opposed to Popular Republic Romania (which means
Republica Populara Romania, the Romanian one). The small difference between
these names is eventually relevant for the spirit of those who have chosen
it.

The name of the country, as it appears on Romanian stamps:
http://www.marci-postale.com/Romania/Census/name.htm

As for the real popularity of this so called Popular Republic, it needed
concentration camps in order to successfully enforce its "popularity". A bit
about this, as related to stamp collecting, is presented on:

http://www.marci-postale.com/Romania...-communism.htm

Victor Manta

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Victor Manta December 30th 03 08:55 AM

"malcolm hirst" wrote in message
om...
Hello Rodney

Popular in this context should probably be read as "People's" - it is
in fact if not in mind synonimous. A fair number of peoples republics
do not appear to have a high regard for people and are certainly
decidedly unpopular - and Romania of a certain period more unpopular
than most !

Regards
Malcolm


I have good reasons to think that "popular" and "people's" are synonymous.
For example in Merriam-Webster, when looking for "popular sovereignty", I
have found:

1: a doctrine in political theory that sovereignty is vested in the people
as a whole rather than in a particular individual or group (as a ruling
dynasty) and as a result that government is created by and subject to the
will of the people establish the doctrine of popular sovereignty as the
foundation of modern Europe, Times Literary Supplement

As for the popularity of the Communist regime in Romania, you are certainly
right.

Victor Manta

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Communism on Stamps: http://www.values.ch/Communism/
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