Toshiba sa-500 receiver
I was recommended to go here by rusty . I am new to vintage audio,
and recently got a toshiba sa-500. It has a pretty bad balance issue. I have to turn the knob to 3 on the right for it to be balanced. Any solutions? |
Toshiba sa-500 receiver
On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 20:34:35 -0700 (PDT), carfreak
wrote: I was recommended to go here by rusty . I am new to vintage audio, and recently got a toshiba sa-500. It has a pretty bad balance issue. I have to turn the knob to 3 on the right for it to be balanced. Any solutions? snip First, swap the speaker leads and see if the trouble follows the speaker. You may have a loudspeaker issue, not an electrical issue. If the trouble doesn't follow the speaker, you could have a number of different problems, a likely one being a toasted output transistor, which would make the channel in question about 6 dB less loud than the good one. You don't say if the affected channel has a distortion problem or not, which could alos be an indicator. These weren't very good units, so don't go spending a lot of money fixing it. Toshiba's audio products were, around that time, discount store stuff at best. Their cassette decks were some of the worst I've ever seen at any price. |
Toshiba sa-500 receiver
On Jul 9, 1:22 pm, DeserTBoB wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 20:34:35 -0700 (PDT), carfreak wrote: I was recommended to go here by rusty . I am new to vintage audio, and recently got a toshiba sa-500. It has a pretty bad balance issue. I have to turn the knob to 3 on the right for it to be balanced. Any solutions? snip First, swap the speaker leads and see if the trouble follows the speaker. You may have a loudspeaker issue, not an electrical issue. If the trouble doesn't follow the speaker, you could have a number of different problems, a likely one being a toasted output transistor, which would make the channel in question about 6 dB less loud than the good one. You don't say if the affected channel has a distortion problem or not, which could alos be an indicator. These weren't very good units, so don't go spending a lot of money fixing it. Toshiba's audio products were, around that time, discount store stuff at best. Their cassette decks were some of the worst I've ever seen at any price. we did switch the speaker leads. that was the first thing we did. the speaker was not the issue. the receiver has a lot of sentimental value to my friend it belonged to his grandparents. how hard is it to switch out the output transistor? Rusty |
Toshiba sa-500 receiver
On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 14:20:57 -0700 (PDT), Rusty
wrote: we did switch the speaker leads. that was the first thing we did. the speaker was not the issue. the receiver has a lot of sentimental value to my friend it belonged to his grandparents. how hard is it to switch out the output transistor? snip OK, this unit (I believe) has a speaker selection switch. Try running from the "B" speaker terminals and see if the problem still stays the same. Replacing a standard TO3-case output transistor is quick work, but first you have to know how to find the bad one. Tools would be a soldering iron, thermal grease and normal screwdrivers, side cutters, et al. I really don't have the JEDEC number of the original outputs on those handy, but suffice it to say that, if failed, the bad transistor won't be shorted, since the amplifier is still operating. I'd look for oxidized connections on the output transistor heat sink. Also, be aware that Japanese electronics from this era were well known for developing cracked solder on their wave-soldiered PC boards, but I don't think that's the issue here. |
Toshiba sa-500 receiver
On Jul 9, 5:14*pm, DeserTBoB wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 14:20:57 -0700 (PDT), Rusty wrote: we did switch the speaker leads. that was the first thing we did. the speaker was not the issue. the receiver has a lot of sentimental value to my friend it belonged to his grandparents. how hard is it to switch out the output transistor? snip OK, this unit (I believe) has a speaker selection switch. *Try running from the "B" speaker terminals and see if the problem still stays the same. Replacing a standard TO3-case output transistor is quick work, but first you have to know how to find the bad one. *Tools would be a soldering iron, thermal grease and normal screwdrivers, side cutters, et al. *I really don't have the JEDEC number of the original outputs on those handy, but suffice it to say that, if failed, the bad transistor won't be shorted, since the amplifier is still operating. I'd look for oxidized connections on the output transistor heat sink. Also, be aware that Japanese electronics from this era were well known for developing cracked solder on their wave-soldiered PC boards, but I don't think that's the issue here. My receiver hasn't been used in probably over a decade, so oxidation is very possible. I will check it out, thanks for the advice. If I do find oxidation, how should I clean it? |
Toshiba sa-500 receiver
On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 21:52:35 -0700 (PDT), carfreak
wrote: My receiver hasn't been used in probably over a decade, so oxidation is very possible. I will check it out, thanks for the advice. If I do find oxidation, how should I clean it? snip On wafer switches, the best first aid is simply exercising them. For noisy switches and pots, a switch contact cleaning spray, notably those from Caig Laboratories (Caig Pro Gold is a favorite of mine), is best, but don't overdo it. Washing potentiometers and switches too much will wash out all the "pot grease" and the oxidation will return shortly, along with erratic performance. Also of concern, if the unit has been sitting around unenergized, is the condition of any electrolytic capacitors in the unit. Usually, this will manifest itself in "crackling and popping" noises, if the power supply electrolytics are bad. Most of the older Japanese receivers of this ilk used Nichicon axial electrolytics in for stage decoupling, and they do tend to go bad. Job 1 right now, though, is tracking down why one channel is performing badly. Good luck with that. |
Toshiba sa-500 receiver
My receiver hasn't been used in probably over a decade, so oxidation
is very possible. *I will check it out, thanks for the advice. *If I do find oxidation, how should I clean it?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - carfreak check your email, I sent you one |
Toshiba sa-500 receiver
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:13:43 -0700 (PDT), "Dishwasher Charlie" Nudo,
Drums, PA aka trippin-2-8-track wrote: My receiver hasn't been used in probably over a decade, so oxidation is very possible. *I will check it out, thanks for the advice. *If I do find oxidation, how should I clean it?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - carfreak check your email, I sent you one snip Why do you have to "announce" that you sent someone an email, if but only to say that you've sent yet another lie-filled attack against me to him? Do you think you're fooling anyone with your crap? No one is fooled. The only "fool" here is "Dishwasher Charlie" Nudo, the simpleton from Drums. |
Toshiba sa-500 receiver
On Jul 10, 5:04*pm, DeserTBoB wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:13:43 -0700 (PDT), "Dishwasher Charlie" Nudo, Drums, PA *aka trippin-2-8-track wrote: My receiver hasn't been used in probably over a decade, so oxidation is very possible. *I will check it out, thanks for the advice. *If I do find oxidation, how should I clean it?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - carfreak check your email, I sent you one snip Why do you have to "announce" that you sent someone an email, if but only to say that you've sent yet another lie-filled attack against me to him? *Do you think you're fooling anyone with your crap? *No one is fooled. *The only "fool" here is "Dishwasher Charlie" Nudo, the simpleton from Drums. sorry to ruin your fun, desertbob, but it wasnt what you think. it was advice along with an offer to repair my receiver for a cost. |
Toshiba sa-500 receiver
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:44:55 -0700 (PDT), carfreak
wrote: sorry to ruin your fun, desertbob, but it wasnt what you think. it was advice along with an offer to repair my receiver for a cost. snip Usually, he sends diatribes to others about his "enemies," as people send me the mail they get from him. Consider yourself lucky in that regard, but this guy Charlie Nudo is NO electronics technician. What the game is with Noodles is that he's hooked in with the owner of a dying electronics shop in Hazelton, PA. Noodles takes your unit to him, has the dude repair it, and then tacks on his take on top of it. You'd be far better off taking it to someone local to you...assuming you can find one. Even if you go for online repair, better to send the unit directly to this guy's shop rather than go through our resident scumbag. |
Toshiba sa-500 receiver
You'd be far better off taking it to someone local to you...assuming
you can find one. Even if you go for online repair, better to send the unit directly to this guy's shop rather than go through our resident scumbag. What is the current state of other cities and good local old school repair shops? We are fortunate in Winnipeg to have a shop with three older guys (one being the owner) past retirement age that continue on keeping shop. They are always busy and have done some good work for me on several turntables and an 8 track deck or two over the years. A pretty great resource to have around and they are highly prized by our local population. |
Toshiba sa-500 receiver
On Jul 10, 7:35*pm, DeserTBoB wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:44:55 -0700 (PDT), carfreak wrote: sorry to ruin your fun, desertbob, but it wasnt what you think. *it was advice along with an offer to repair my receiver for a cost. snip Usually, he sends diatribes to others about his "enemies," as people send me the mail they get from him. *Consider yourself lucky in that regard, but this guy Charlie Nudo is NO electronics technician. *What the game is with Noodles is that he's hooked in with the owner of a dying electronics shop in Hazelton, PA. *Noodles takes your unit to him, has the dude repair it, and then tacks on his take on top of it. You'd be far better off taking it to someone local to you...assuming you can find one. *Even if you go for online repair, better to send the unit directly to this guy's shop rather than go through our resident scumbag. yeah, he said it was minimum 100 buck charge plus shipping. I told him it would cost that much to send it there from ca. and theres no way im paying 200 bucks, on something Rusty and I can do by ourselves. |
Toshiba sa-500 receiver
On Jul 11, 12:52*am, carfreak wrote:
On Jul 10, 7:35*pm, DeserTBoB wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:44:55 -0700 (PDT), carfreak wrote: sorry to ruin your fun, desertbob, but it wasnt what you think. *it was advice along with an offer to repair my receiver for a cost. snip Usually, he sends diatribes to others about his "enemies," as people send me the mail they get from him. *Consider yourself lucky in that regard, but this guy Charlie Nudo is NO electronics technician. *What the game is with Noodles is that he's hooked in with the owner of a dying electronics shop in Hazelton, PA. *Noodles takes your unit to him, has the dude repair it, and then tacks on his take on top of it. You'd be far better off taking it to someone local to you...assuming you can find one. *Even if you go for online repair, better to send the unit directly to this guy's shop rather than go through our resident scumbag. yeah, he said it was minimum 100 buck charge plus shipping. *I told him it would cost that much to send it there from ca. and theres no way im paying 200 bucks, on something Rusty and I can do by ourselves.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - carfreak- thanks for email reply, I just sent you another one |
Toshiba sa-500 receiver
On Jul 11, 6:33*am, trippin-2-8-track wrote:
On Jul 11, 12:52*am, carfreak wrote: On Jul 10, 7:35*pm, DeserTBoB wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:44:55 -0700 (PDT), carfreak wrote: sorry to ruin your fun, desertbob, but it wasnt what you think. *it was advice along with an offer to repair my receiver for a cost. snip Usually, he sends diatribes to others about his "enemies," as people send me the mail they get from him. *Consider yourself lucky in that regard, but this guy Charlie Nudo is NO electronics technician. *What the game is with Noodles is that he's hooked in with the owner of a dying electronics shop in Hazelton, PA. *Noodles takes your unit to him, has the dude repair it, and then tacks on his take on top of it. You'd be far better off taking it to someone local to you...assuming you can find one. *Even if you go for online repair, better to send the unit directly to this guy's shop rather than go through our resident scumbag. yeah, he said it was minimum 100 buck charge plus shipping. *I told him it would cost that much to send it there from ca. and theres no way im paying 200 bucks, on something Rusty and I can do by ourselves.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - carfreak- thanks for email reply, I just sent you another one what the hell is going on? everyone's telling me something else is wrong, who to believe and not to believe. direct quote from trippin-2-8... "don't listen to that DeserTBob guy- he gives repair advice, and when a person does it, it ends up ruining their receiver and tape deck- the guy is a poser" "I have a cert in basic electronics, and have been repairing/buying/ selling stereos on the net and ebay now, for 7 years- my partner has been in business for 30 years- what I can't fix, I take over there, and we always end up fixing it- most times it is only 1 or 2 small components to solder in- but it has to be isolated and troubleshooted first, to find what's wrong- that's the hard part" |
Toshiba sa-500 receiver
On Jul 11, 1:36*pm, carfreak wrote:
On Jul 11, 6:33*am, trippin-2-8-track wrote: On Jul 11, 12:52*am, carfreak wrote: On Jul 10, 7:35*pm, DeserTBoB wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:44:55 -0700 (PDT), carfreak wrote: sorry to ruin your fun, desertbob, but it wasnt what you think. *it was advice along with an offer to repair my receiver for a cost. snip Usually, he sends diatribes to others about his "enemies," as people send me the mail they get from him. *Consider yourself lucky in that regard, but this guy Charlie Nudo is NO electronics technician. *What the game is with Noodles is that he's hooked in with the owner of a dying electronics shop in Hazelton, PA. *Noodles takes your unit to him, has the dude repair it, and then tacks on his take on top of it. |
Toshiba sa-500 receiver
"I have a cert in basic electronics, and have been repairing/buying/ selling stereos on the net and ebay now, for 7 years- my partner has been in business for 30 years- what I can't fix, I take over there, and we always end up fixing it- most times it is only 1 or 2 small components to solder in- but it has to be isolated and troubleshooted first, to find what's wrong- that's the hard part" Bob, If the e-mail is true, I bet the IRS and Mr. Stola would like to know about Zito being a "partner". PIERCE ELECTRONICS 35 EAST OAK STREET TRESKOW, PA. 18254 USA SHOP PHONE: 570-459-4639 EMIL STOLA- PROPRIETOR |
Toshiba sa-500 receiver
On Jul 11, 4:33*pm, trippin-2-8-track wrote:
On Jul 11, 1:36*pm, carfreak wrote: On Jul 11, 6:33*am, trippin-2-8-track wrote: On Jul 11, 12:52*am, carfreak wrote: On Jul 10, 7:35*pm, DeserTBoB wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:44:55 -0700 (PDT), carfreak wrote: sorry to ruin your fun, desertbob, but it wasnt what you think. *it was advice along with an offer to repair my receiver for a cost. snip Usually, he sends diatribes to others about his "enemies," as people send me the mail they get from him. *Consider yourself lucky in that regard, but this guy Charlie Nudo is NO electronics technician. *What the game is with Noodles is that he's hooked in with the owner of a dying electronics shop in Hazelton, PA. *Noodles takes your unit to him, has the dude repair it, and then tacks on his take on top of it. You'd be far better off taking it to someone local to you...assuming you can find one. *Even if you go for online repair, better to send the unit directly to this guy's shop rather than go through our resident scumbag. yeah, he said it was minimum 100 buck charge plus shipping. *I told him it would cost that much to send it there from ca. and theres no way im paying 200 bucks, on something Rusty and I can do by ourselves.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - carfreak- thanks for email reply, I just sent you another one what the hell is going on? *everyone's telling me something else is wrong, who to believe and not to believe. direct quote from trippin-2-8... "don't listen to that DeserTBob guy- he gives repair advice, and when a person does it, it ends up ruining their receiver and tape deck- the guy is a poser" "I have a cert in basic electronics, and have been repairing/buying/ selling stereos on the net and ebay now, for 7 years- my partner has been in business for 30 years- what I can't fix, I take over there, and we always end up fixing it- most times it is only 1 or 2 small components to solder in- but it has to be isolated and troubleshooted first, to find what's wrong- that's the hard part"- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - yeh, what IS going on ? *direct quote from carfreak: ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 7:51 PM hey, Thanks for the advice. *I'll try that out. *Regarding your offer, I live in CA, and shipping alone would cost that much. *If I screw it up beyond working condition, I'll be sure to contact you first. carfreak this "you're wrong, no you're wrong" is bullsh-t im just going someplace else for advice |
Toshiba sa-500 receiver
On Jul 12, 3:54*am, carfreak wrote:
On Jul 11, 4:33*pm, trippin-2-8-track wrote: On Jul 11, 1:36*pm, carfreak wrote: On Jul 11, 6:33*am, trippin-2-8-track wrote: On Jul 11, 12:52*am, carfreak wrote: On Jul 10, 7:35*pm, DeserTBoB wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:44:55 -0700 (PDT), carfreak wrote: sorry to ruin your fun, desertbob, but it wasnt what you think.. *it was advice along with an offer to repair my receiver for a cost. snip Usually, he sends diatribes to others about his "enemies," as people send me the mail they get from him. *Consider yourself lucky in that regard, but this guy Charlie Nudo is NO electronics technician. *What the game is with Noodles is that he's hooked in with the owner of a dying electronics shop in Hazelton, PA. *Noodles takes your unit to him, has the dude repair it, and then tacks on his take on top of it. You'd be far better off taking it to someone local to you...assuming you can find one. *Even if you go for online repair, better to send the unit directly to this guy's shop rather than go through our resident scumbag. yeah, he said it was minimum 100 buck charge plus shipping. *I told him it would cost that much to send it there from ca. and theres no way im paying 200 bucks, on something Rusty and I can do by ourselves.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - carfreak- thanks for email reply, I just sent you another one what the hell is going on? *everyone's telling me something else is wrong, who to believe and not to believe. direct quote from trippin-2-8... "don't listen to that DeserTBob guy- he gives repair advice, and when a person does it, it ends up ruining their receiver and tape deck- the guy is a poser" "I have a cert in basic electronics, and have been repairing/buying/ selling stereos on the net and ebay now, for 7 years- my partner has been in business for 30 years- what I can't fix, I take over there, and we always end up fixing it- most times it is only 1 or 2 small components to solder in- but it has to be isolated and troubleshooted first, to find what's wrong- that's the hard part"- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - yeh, what IS going on ? *direct quote from carfreak: ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 7:51 PM hey, Thanks for the advice. *I'll try that out. *Regarding your offer, I live in CA, and shipping alone would cost that much. *If I screw it up beyond working condition, I'll be sure to contact you first. carfreak this "you're wrong, no you're wrong" is bullsh-t *im just going someplace else for advice- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - carfreak check your email, I sent you one |
Toshiba sa-500 receiver
carfreak wrote:
this "you're wrong, no you're wrong" is bullsh-t *im just going someplace else for advice i don't blame you for this, there is just too many trolls & people who think they "know-it-all" in the newsgroups. i am sorry for being late to this post, but maybe, i can give you some troubleshooting help with this. i made my living doing this for a long time. your trouble may not be from the output transistors, but could be caused by ether a dried up electrolytic capacitor in the signal path, or a resistor that has gone out of spec. before messing around with the output transistors, i strongly suggest that you get a schematic diagram for that specific receiver, a signal tracer (a audio amplifier will work), & trace through the signal path starting from the preamp / tone control stage & work your way up to the driver stage. this will at least tell you if & where you are losing your audio signal. as i said earlier, it would be in your best interest to try troubleshooting the signal path first before doing anything at all with the output stage, that would be the last resort. -- |
Toshiba sa-500 receiver
carfreak wrote:
I was recommended to go here by rusty . I am new to vintage audio, and recently got a toshiba sa-500. It has a pretty bad balance issue. I have to turn the knob to 3 on the right for it to be balanced. Any solutions? it sounds like that there is a problem in the signal path like a resistor that has opened up or a dried out electrolytic capacitor. i don't think it is a output stage problem. here is the best place to go to get help with your vintage Toshiba. http://audiokarma.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=13 -- |
Toshiba sa-500 receiver
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:36:26 -0700 (PDT), carfreak
wrote: what the hell is going on? everyone's telling me something else is wrong, who to believe and not to believe. snip Well, AntiNudo and I have valid ideas...Nudo knows nothing. His "basic cert" in "electronics" was probably how to jump start a dead battery in a junk car. direct quote from trippin-2-8... "don't listen to that DeserTBob guy- he gives repair advice, and when a person does it, it ends up ruining their receiver and tape deck- the guy is a poser" snip Another "Dishwasher Charlie" Nudo lie. "I have a cert in basic electronics snip BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA! , and have been repairing/buying/ selling stereos on the net and ebay now, for 7 years- snip Should you need any proof of this oaf's ineptitude, allow me to start referencing all his posts about his failed attempts to do a simple troubleshooting job on a valuable Fisher 800C awhile back...hilarious! This moron doesn't know what the polarity of an electrolytic capacitor means, nor what a capacitor does. He's completely inept, a simpleton eBay hustler out to make a buck off of both you and this guy with the tuckered out electronics shop in one of the most economically distressed regions of the United States. For more on this wad of excrement Charlie Nudo, see: http://nudowatch.blogspot.com my partner has been in business for 30 years- what I can't fix, I take over there, and we always end up fixing it- most times it is only 1 or 2 small components to solder in- but it has to be isolated and troubleshooted first, to find what's wrong- that's the hard part" snip "Troubleshooted" isn't even a word, "Dildow." It's "troubleshot." "Dishwasher Charlie," repeat this 100 times before you go to bed..."DING! Fries are done!" Then, go apply for a job at the Wendy's over by the CAN'T DO BUSINESS/BERYLLIUM POISONING CENTER up by I-80. I do agree with AntiNudo...the culprit indeed could be a dried out axial electrolytic decoupling cap in the signal path...easy fix, if you have any clue about repair, which it doesn't appear you do. I'd take it to a shop and get it done by someone with some experience and proper techniques. Sometimes these will simply show up as attenuation of the signal, while the DC bias voltages will appear near normal, although sometimes you'll also note missing bass response in the attenuated channel. Hey, Noodles! Are you paying taxes on your "business" you do with Stola? A phone call in the AM will find that out. |
Toshiba sa-500 receiver
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 04:00:54 GMT, "William W Western"
wrote: You'd be far better off taking it to someone local to you...assuming you can find one. Even if you go for online repair, better to send the unit directly to this guy's shop rather than go through our resident scumbag. What is the current state of other cities and good local old school repair shops? We are fortunate in Winnipeg to have a shop with three older guys (one being the owner) past retirement age that continue on keeping shop. They are always busy and have done some good work for me on several turntables and an 8 track deck or two over the years. A pretty great resource to have around and they are highly prized by our local population. snip Down here, they're all but gone. "Disposable" Chinese electronics have completely obviated their work, and not too many people want work done on a 30 year old Sylvania TV. Thus, it's a dead small business. |
Toshiba sa-500 receiver
On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 04:52:54 -0700 (PDT), trippin-2-8-track
wrote: On Jul 12, 3:54*am, carfreak wrote: On Jul 11, 4:33*pm, trippin-2-8-track wrote: carfreak check your email, I sent you one snip Carfreak, put trippin-2-8-track in your kill file, where he belongs. He's a fraud and a thief. Ask anyone else. Ask ANYONE at 8trackheaven! See more about this buffoon/moroon at: http://nudowatch.blogspot.com |
Toshiba sa-500 receiver
On Jul 12, 11:15*pm, DeserTBoB wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 04:52:54 -0700 (PDT), trippin-2-8-track wrote: On Jul 12, 3:54*am, carfreak wrote: On Jul 11, 4:33*pm, trippin-2-8-track wrote: carfreak check your email, I sent you one snip Carfreak, put trippin-2-8-track in your kill file, where he belongs. He's a fraud and a thief. *Ask anyone else. *Ask ANYONE at 8trackheaven! *See more about this buffoon/moroon at: http://nudowatch.blogspot.com Thanks DesertBoB. Its not that hard to live with, but its just easier to find a better, working one someplace else. And when i do get a better one, ill try to fix my current one, that way i can screw it up all i want. |
Toshiba sa-500 receiver
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:54:55 -0700 (PDT), carfreak
wrote: Thanks DesertBoB. Its not that hard to live with, but its just easier to find a better, working one someplace else. And when i do get a better one, ill try to fix my current one, that way i can screw it up all i want. snip Well, your choice, but spending more money on a duplicate receiver seems a bit much, when an axial electrolytic's about a buck, and an output transistor's just a little more. Maybe AntiNudo will fix it for you...he knows what's up and is surely reliable. I don't take repairs by mail anymore...major hassle for me when I have other stuff going on. |
Toshiba sa-500 receiver
On Jul 14, 7:54*pm, carfreak wrote:
On Jul 12, 11:15*pm, DeserTBoB wrote: On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 04:52:54 -0700 (PDT), trippin-2-8-track wrote: On Jul 12, 3:54*am, carfreak wrote: On Jul 11, 4:33*pm, trippin-2-8-track wrote: carfreak check your email, I sent you one snip Carfreak, put trippin-2-8-track in your kill file, where he belongs. He's a fraud and a thief. *Ask anyone else. *Ask ANYONE at 8trackheaven! *See more about this buffoon/moroon at: http://nudowatch.blogspot.com Thanks DesertBoB. *Its not that hard to live with, but its just easier to find a better, working one someplace else. *And when i do get a better one, ill try to fix my current one, that way i can screw it up all i want. carfreak, check your email, I sent you one |
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