Truth about PCGS Holders
 

I'm laughing so hard I may loose control of my bodily functions, Good one.

Honest Coindealer wrote:
Subject: PCGS Holders
From: (Luvsblkcat)
Date: 6/29/03 8:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

Are PCGS holders absolutely safe for long term storage of 20 or more

years or

is the ICG holder better?




I've known aging tests to have shown that PCGS holders TRASH coins,
due to PVC damage, resulting in hazing, etc. Just do a google search
or check out the threads on http://forums.collectors.com

Unless you want your coins TRASHED AND WORTHLESS 10 years from now, in
the long run it is best to have them graded and authenticated by ACG,
not PCGS. Check out http://www.asa-accugrade.com/coins.htm and
http://mediausa.net/acgpackaging/

Note also that PCGS provides and encourages you to submit your coins
in holders cointaining PVC, which has lead to MANY PEOPLE HAVING THEIR
COINS TRASHED **DURING** the submission process (see
http://forums.collectors.com/), sometimes PCGS even provides a
fingerprint on your coin so that it will acquire interesting looking
PVC damage, down the road after the submission process!

Whereas, ACG states to "Ship all coins in Non-PVC RIGID FLIPS " when
submitting. (see http://mediausa.net/acgpackaging/pdf...nse_submit.pdf
)

Remember at the Charlotte hearing, it was brought out that PVC damaged
coins have been found in both ACG and PCGS holders, but that only PCGS
holders and PCGS submission policies are likely to trash your coins
this way - only PCGS encourages submission in PVC holders! (reference
above)

That's one of the reasons ACG had to withdraw from the sham
organization that the ANA has become.

On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:29:36 -0400 (EDT),
(Edward McGrath) wrote:

Scott Stevenson writes "That's right--put it in an ACG holder, and make
it worthless RIGHT NOWsnip ROTFL Thanks Scott, I can't remember when I
laughed so hard.

I'm telling ya, I ought to be doing six shows a week at the Rio

Why are these people posting this crap in RCC. The
truth is out and everyone in this group knows it so why don't they go
some where else and try to con unsuspecting collectors?

It's what happens when "Bagdad Bob" finally gets access to the
Internet.

take care,
Scott
There are no rcc infidels in rec.collecting.coins. Never!

Reid Goldsborough wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:56:31 -0400, "John Carney"
wrote:

The ones I received with my B&M/PCGS kit are the hard as stone mylar flips.

I just looked into this, and PCGS switched sometime within the last
year or so, from the soft PVC flips they had included in their kits
previously to the low-plasticizer PVC flips they use now. I actually
have two kits, one older one and one of the new ones. Now, if only
dealers would switch too. g

Did they use soft mylar flips? I thought that they included these little
soft baggie type holder to put your coin into *before* it went into the
safe flips?


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On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:56:31 -0400, "John Carney"
wrote:

The ones I received with my B&M/PCGS kit are the hard as stone mylar flips.

I just looked into this, and PCGS switched sometime within the last
year or so, from the soft PVC flips they had included in their kits
previously to the low-plasticizer PVC flips they use now. I actually
have two kits, one older one and one of the new ones. Now, if only
dealers would switch too. g

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Craton wrote:

I thought that they included these little
soft baggie type holder to put your coin into *before* it went into the
safe flips?

I believe ANACS includes the poly bags in their submission kits. However, Harv
posted a scan of the warning card that came with the PCGS kit and they
specifically warned against using the poly bags....said it could cause hazing
on some coins.


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On 01 Jul 2003 01:35:45 GMT, ulsion (Phil DeMayo) wrote:

Craton wrote:

I thought that they included these little
soft baggie type holder to put your coin into *before* it went into the
safe flips?

I believe ANACS includes the poly bags in their submission kits. However, Harv
posted a scan of the warning card that came with the PCGS kit and they
specifically warned against using the poly bags....said it could cause hazing
on some coins.

The word is over on the PCGS board that the poly bags cause hazing on proofs.
I've always used them on my business strike Morgans without a problem.

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On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 17:56:45 -0700, Craton wrote:

Did they use soft mylar flips? I thought that they included these little
soft baggie type holder to put your coin into *before* it went into the
safe flips?

Didn't come with the kit I got from PCGS, and never saw any at the
PCGS table at major coin shows.

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