Need source for pressure pads

[Virgil]

Are the foam type, and metal spring with felt pads type pressure pads =
still available? Sorry if this has been covered before, I just got here! =
Thanks,
Virgil

[trippin2-8track]

You can replace either type with home-made square pieces of foam or
felt padding, typically found in packaging materials. The best I've
found so far was an ironing board cover, there is a foam cushion
inside that is the ideal thickness to make replacement 8-track cart
pads from. Just cut to the size needed and insert. If you have the
cart apart, remove the old pads. But you don't have to. You can
flatten the original foam pad and insert a new one over it. You can
also flatten the old spring pads, and place new pads over it.

I've fixed literally thousands of tapes like this so far, it works
great. And it's free.

[Virgil]

Thanks, actually I have did that in the past, just wondered if there =
might be some manufactured ones available.
"trippin2-8track" > wrote in message =
om...
> You can replace either type with home-made square pieces of foam or
> felt padding, typically found in packaging materials. The best I've
> found so far was an ironing board cover, there is a foam cushion
> inside that is the ideal thickness to make replacement 8-track cart
> pads from. Just cut to the size needed and insert. If you have the
> cart apart, remove the old pads. But you don't have to. You can
> flatten the original foam pad and insert a new one over it. You can
> also flatten the old spring pads, and place new pads over it.
>=20
> I've fixed literally thousands of tapes like this so far, it works
> great. And it's free.

[Mr.B]

Go to this address and check out the win-gib pad.
http://home.comcast.net/~dkgibson3/tracks/wingib.htm I used to make my own
also but considering the time it took to make good pads one at a time I
switched to win-gibs. I love them I can repair tapes at lightening speed.
Some in this group will badmouth them for reasons having nothing to do with
their quality. I highly recommend them.
Brian


"Virgil" > wrote in message
.net...
Thanks, actually I have did that in the past, just wondered if there might
be some manufactured ones available.
"trippin2-8track" > wrote in message
om...
> You can replace either type with home-made square pieces of foam or
> felt padding, typically found in packaging materials. The best I've
> found so far was an ironing board cover, there is a foam cushion
> inside that is the ideal thickness to make replacement 8-track cart
> pads from. Just cut to the size needed and insert. If you have the
> cart apart, remove the old pads. But you don't have to. You can
> flatten the original foam pad and insert a new one over it. You can
> also flatten the old spring pads, and place new pads over it.
>
> I've fixed literally thousands of tapes like this so far, it works
> great. And it's free.

[trippin2-8track]

If you make a new pad that fills the entire pad area of the cart, you
will end up with a pad that's actually better than original. The
problem with the original foam pads (and the Win-Gib replacements), is
they are only the width of the tape. If you notice, some of the
original spring-type pads are quite wider than the tape, and overhang
on top and bottom. That's the ideal setup, cuz if the tape moves
around when switching tracks, the pad is big enough to compensate.

The ultimate pad is the very wide spring-type pad. To my knowledge, no
one reproduces the spring type yet, but they should. It was definitely
superior to the other type.

There is a problem with the spring type pads, that is the pad comes
off the metal spring with age, the glue dries up.

[Adam Cavanaugh]

"trippin2-8track" > wrote in message
om...
> If you make a new pad that fills the entire pad area of the cart, you
> will end up with a pad that's actually better than original. The
> problem with the original foam pads (and the Win-Gib replacements), is
> they are only the width of the tape. If you notice, some of the
> original spring-type pads are quite wider than the tape, and overhang
> on top and bottom. That's the ideal setup, cuz if the tape moves
> around when switching tracks, the pad is big enough to compensate.
>
> The ultimate pad is the very wide spring-type pad. To my knowledge, no
> one reproduces the spring type yet, but they should. It was definitely
> superior to the other type.
>
> There is a problem with the spring type pads, that is the pad comes
> off the metal spring with age, the glue dries up.

I have lurked for a long time, and I am a lifetime 'tracker'.
First off, you don't know what you are talking about, Trippin, or whatever
you are going by today.
Not only on this post, but every post you put in. The tape doesn't move
when changing tracks. In fact, the tape NEVER moves under normal
circumstances. Second, the extra pad 'hypothesis' is total crap. It looks
like crap, and does nothing to help fidelity. Third, your homemade pads
don't have a plastic top that protects the important lubricating underlayer
of the tape itself. If you use Home Depot foam, it scrapes the bottom of
the tape clean, and will cause the tape to overwind and become too tight.

Please stop giving bad advice to people, it's a reflection of your poor
judgement which you constantly use.


Adam

[Bluemuse]

>There is a problem with the spring type pads, that is the pad comes
>off the metal spring with age, the glue dries up.

This problem is also one of the most easily fixed. Fabric stores carry sheets
of self-stick felt. Cut it to size and stick it to the metal spring. You don't
even need to disassemble the cartridge.


--Bob Farace

"I only believe in fire." --Anais Nin

[Virgil]

Thanks to all for replies, think I'll try some of the Win-Gibs. I've =
always liked the metal spring type much better, don't see why they all =
didn't use them.
Probably cheaper.
Virgil
"Bluemuse" > wrote in message =
...
> >There is a problem with the spring type pads, that is the pad comes
> >off the metal spring with age, the glue dries up.
>=20
> This problem is also one of the most easily fixed. Fabric stores carry =
sheets
> of self-stick felt. Cut it to size and stick it to the metal spring. =
You don't
> even need to disassemble the cartridge.
>=20
>=20
> --Bob Farace
>=20
> "I only believe in fire." --Anais Nin

[Daniel & Kathy Gibson]

Virgil,

Some people have noticed (myself included) that the metal springs can
result in a static-y playback. It is very noticable on my Claricon deck.
Let us know about the win-gibs!

Danno

Virgil wrote:
>
> Thanks to all for replies, think I'll try some of the Win-Gibs. I've always liked the metal spring type much better, don't see why they all didn't use them.
> Probably cheaper.
> Virgil
> "Bluemuse" > wrote in message ...
> > >There is a problem with the spring type pads, that is the pad comes
> > >off the metal spring with age, the glue dries up.
> >
> > This problem is also one of the most easily fixed. Fabric stores carry sheets
> > of self-stick felt. Cut it to size and stick it to the metal spring. You don't
> > even need to disassemble the cartridge.
> >
> >
> > --Bob Farace
> >
> > "I only believe in fire." --Anais Nin

--

Daniel and Kathy Gibson
http://www.katestrackshack.com
"Kate's Track Shack -Your Internet Home For Inexpensive 8-tracks!!"
AND...
http://drnooseandjambone.com
"DrNoose And Jambone - Do It To The Optigan!"

[trippin2-8track]

If that stick-on felt is thick enough, you can also use it in place of
a Win-Gib pad. Adhere it to where the old pad used to be.

Been there, done that too, it works.

[trippin2-8track]

> I have lurked for a long time, and I am a lifetime 'tracker'.

Doubtful. If you were, you never would have flamed a home-grown cart
repair tip in the first place. Sounds gen X or gen digital to me...

> First off, you don't know what you are talking about, Trippin, or whatever
> you are going by today.

Sounds like you're a real legend in your own mind....
I've repaired more carts, than you'll ever live to see- carts I bought
new back in the 1970's. And shipped thousands of them all over the
world- to accolades.
I've forgotten fix tricks, than you'll ever know.

> Not only on this post, but every post you put in.

Glad to hear your reading each and every one of my posts. What's the
attraction, you're learning, aren't you...

The tape doesn't move
> when changing tracks. In fact, the tape NEVER moves under normal
> circumstances.

Wrong. I've taken decks apart, and played them and watched the tape
with a flashlight. It moves. Sometimes you can get better sound on a
decks just by removing the cart, and putting it back in. Never say
never.

Furthermore, how do you think the tape gets turned around, wrong side
out, at track switch sometimes ?? Look at the next reversed tape you
find, where it is twisted and creased. And you think it doesn't move
?? Get a reality check.

>>Second, the extra pad 'hypothesis' is total crap.

Oh really (chuckle)...then explain WHY most spring pads are wider than
the tape ?? Companies like RCA and Warner Brothers used extra wide
spring pads on-they didn't do it, cuz they like spending more money on
pad thickness.

>It looks like crap, and does nothing to help fidelity.

Wrong. If you use black foam padding, it looks jake. (that means "the
best" in cool lingo- but since you're not, I'll interpret for you)

And a Win-Gib ain't pretty- they take after Gibby, and the apple
didn't fall far from the tree...Win-Gibbies have the color of a dried
up booger.

>Third, your homemade pads
> don't have a plastic top that protects the important lubricating underlayer
> of the tape itself.

Plastic isn't needed. Here's why: The spring pads, don't have the
plastic top either. And they are the best/most expensive pad ever
made, do your homework, rookie.

>If you use Home Depot foam, it scrapes the bottom of
> the tape clean, and will cause the tape to overwind and become too tight.
>

I don't know what Home Depot foam is and don't use it. Sounds like
you tried sandpaper or scotchbrite for a pad (chuckle)

In over 25 years, NONE of my tapes are "scraped clean" on bottom. And
NONE of my repaired tapes overwinds or becomes too tight. Get a
reality check.


> Please stop giving bad advice to people, it's a reflection of your poor
> judgement which you constantly use.

You are obviously a part of the Pad and Foil Cartel. Heads up, this
just in: original foil sucks. Win-Gibs are over-rated, and too
expensive. Both are just a copy of the same ****ty material, that
****ed up the first time around, and killed the 8-track tape 20 years
ago. Wake up- if you want to make it better, don't make it the same-
change it.
>
>
> Adam

Doubtful. The Pad and Foil Cartel think they can cut tape from just
track 4. They never heard of the Led Zeppelin Presence LP until 2
years ago. They recommend TR-803's with ****ty plastic tape head
supports and watery sound. One of them is gay. No one takes their
utterings seriously anymore. No doubt they lock up old used tampax
pads, cuz they think they're valuable. That gang would upstage Larry,
Curly, and Moe for stupidity...and even Shemp ! Are you suggesting we
take their advice ??

I tripped, and I can't get down.

Have fun, listen hard...

ps- if you really want the Maserati Ghibli of pads, strip as many
spring pads as you can from carts of no interest to you, and have at
it.

[trippin2-8track]

Easily remedied, just reduce spring pressure, by adjusting the middle
pad further inside the cart.

(laughter)